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Originally Posted by Aquila
Let's look at a passage...
Matthew 22:24-30 King James Version (KJV)
24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
25 Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother:
26 Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh.
27 And last of all the woman died also.
28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Here we see the Sadducees, who do not believe in the resurrection, asking Jesus about whose wife will this woman be in the resurrection. Their goal is to make a mockery out of the doctrine of the resurrection by using the Law of Moses and what it says about marriage and divorce. Jesus answers,
Matthew 22:29-30
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Christ's point is that in the resurrection glorified human beings do not marry, nor are marriages arranged, but rather they are spiritual beings, like the angels in Heaven. |
Then according to you, that must mean that WE CAN FALL AND HAVE ABILITY TO MARRY if we walk away from God, right? You say that was the case with angels. They DO NOT marry, etc. But that is only for angles IN HEAVEN, as though IN HEAVEN implies fallen angels FROM HEAVEN can and did change themselves to procreate.
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Many use this text to say, "See angels can't have sex." But that isn't at all what the passage is about. Had they asked a question implying starvation, surely Jesus would have explained that glorified people don't need food and are like the angels in Heaven who don't need food either. However, in Scripture we see that while in physical form on earth the angels were eating with Abraham and the LORD in the physical form of human visitors. I believe that it is safe to say that angels are clearly capable of doing anything an assumed physical form will allow them to do.
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How can you derive all of that from Christ's words? Nothing hinted at angels being unable to eat as it did unable to have sex. The issue is inability. You say they are UNABLE to do so in heaven but CAN do so on earth. And you use eating food on earth as a basis. Nothing implies normally angels DO NOT EAT but under certain circumstances they can. No matter how you slice it, nothing ever hinted at ability to not eat in heaven versus ability that changes once in earth.
You cannot compare their ability to eat ON EARTH with having sex. You just can't. there's no logical basis to say otherwise.
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That would include having sex, if they were so wicked and debased to do so (i.e. were fallen angels). So, my point here is that this passage cannot be a proof text regarding the capabilities of the angels. It is only addressing the institution of marriage and how it doesn't exist in the resurrection.
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I disagree. Wholeheartedly. Your implication is what makes this absurd. You imply angels have ability to change forms and do things which they simply are not allowed to use. I believe it is speaking about inability. We're not going to heaven and have the ability to marry and have sex but just deny it from ourselves as you imply the angels are.
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So... take this passage off the table.
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Sorry, no deal. IT IS the biggest issue I have against your view.
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