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Old 09-18-2013, 05:05 AM
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In the next chapter, John 4, Jesus tells us what the water is, the Holy Spirit being placed within, springing up unto everlasting life.

Again, this view of John 3:5 does not negate other verses , such as Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38, which clearly teach that baptism is essential.
But, wouldn't Jesus then be saying, "Except a man be born of water and water"?

In John 3:22, right after the account of Nicodemus, it says - "After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized."

Isn't he speaking of both in a purifying sense, yet distinctly separate? Such as in Matthew 3:11?
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