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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
You say that you quit for intellectual reasons, really?
pardon to be skeptical about your reasons, .
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Yes, "really" . I understand skepticism since it's is my default attitude these days--but for you to express your disbelief about my own testimony so quickly-- indicates bad faith on your part. I had thought I was offering, (in good faith), one of the primary reasons I ceased to be a believer-- apparently judged by you as a possible or probable lie. I can understand the cognitive dissonance--for example, the conflict of being told that a true believing, longtime Christian decides to NOT believe due to simply concluding the bible is unreliable. Often the Christian (avoiding cognitive dissonance) must find scriptural reasons that must explain it, and impose THOSE upon the ex-believer, whether the scriptural reasons about "what went wrong here" have any hard evidence or not Also understandably, believers who reverse believing in the bible without any associated "bad behavior" is hard for former brethren to accept. Jesus said "My Father, which gave them to me, is greater than all: and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand...I will never leave you nor forsake you. " So, it's an easier task on the mind to rather find fault with the ex-believer's (former) walk with God. (Imagine that--there always is something or other "not right" in a person, once we look deep enough.) A similar dissonance-avoidance ploy is to claim , "You never REALLY believed in the first place." Either way, it's arguing from bad faith (this early on) to reject another person's own assessment about why they ceased to believe. Conversely, I DO believe what you (FlamingZ) or any Christian claims about their own beliefs and testimony, until I have evidence to argue otherwise. So, I conclude this ersatz discussion would probably end being up being all about ME, rather than about evidence or reliability of the bible. So for my part, "Pardon not given" to you. That's unfortunate, as I otherwise love to argue about evidence and conundrums concerning the bible. (If anyone else here would like to, good! Especially the nuclear scientist.)
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That is right you quit...
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Thanks for agreeing with me about that part of my testimony, anyhow.
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