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Old 06-12-2013, 01:40 PM
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Re: Another Look at Grace

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 1 Peter 5:5

Here seems to be a condition for grace so it must not mean his favor is "unmerited".



This sounds confusing. The word "charis" the Greek for what we call "unmerited favor" actually means FAVOR without the "unmerited" part.

We grow in grace because as Gods FAVOR comes to us in the form of answered prayers, leadings of the Spirit, or other manifestations of his personal reality our faith grows.

Grace provides PROTECTION from what? Gods displeasure against sin?
It would be interesting to know what is meant by this.

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound ? 2 God forbid . How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein ? Romans 6:1-2

Paul teaches from the time we are baptized into Christ we are dead to sin. We cannot grow as a Christian while there is sin in our lives.

1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby : 3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. 1 Peter 2:1-3

We grow when we lay aside sin not while we continue in it.



Again confususion. Grace replaces WHAT LIST OF RULES? It actually replaces the law of Moses. It is not opposed to the commandments of Christ nor the need to know and study them. One might get the impression Christs commandments need to be taught or studied.

Actually once one is baptized the next step is to teach ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo , I am with you alway , even unto the end of the world. Matt. 28:19-20



We would really need an understanding of what the writer means by self righteousness/condemnation and legalism. In todays Church world those terms are often used to describe practically anyone who is trying to live and teach Christs commands.

The preaching of grace does draw people to Christ when understood as "favor". Meaning Christ would give blessing to his children.

And who is it that is preaching self righteousness today? Condemnation? How does the writer define it? Is he saying the many teachings of scripture concerning the judgment of God have no meaning?

While I understand grace is a vast topic and cannot be fully understood by a few paragraphs I find this teaching to incomplete in itself to school a young convert with.
This is a good post, MTD. Lots of questions that need answering.
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