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Originally Posted by NewbieMisfits
So after yesterdays conversations here.....
What is you definition of a Christian?
Everyone's is different so there can be no real wrong answer....
I ask after the "Why we're not saved" thread < Is our logic in not calling everyone "saved" a Christian? That one must bring themselves to a level of holiness to claim such?
Again being raised Baptist, we witnessed all to many "Christians" that were simply "Sunday Holy-Posers"...
Is it wrong for us to have such standards? Is this judging if it factually based?
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A Christian is the same as a disciple. Much modern error starts with the misunderstanding of this. Evangelical doctrine is currently running wild among Pentecostals.
You pray a prayer to get saved then you are a Christian. Just like that!
But if a Christian and a disciple are
REALLY the same thing as shown here:
Acts 11:26
25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul: 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass , that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people.
And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch
So the believers were originally referred to as "disciples" of Christ. Later the people were called "Christians".
Why is this important? Let us see if Christ gave conditions to be
HIS DISCIPLE.
Luke 14:25-27
25 And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned , and said unto them, 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he
cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me,
cannot be my disciple.
See the difference? Jesus taught one cannot be a Christian unless they put him above everyone else! And he taught you cannot be a Christian unless you take up the cross and follow him!
How shocking to hear the true message of repentance! Not a mere raising of the hand. Not a mere ascent to the death of Christ on the cross. No.
Its forsaking the self life and taking the cross to follow. That is true repentance. No one is a true Christian who did not come this way. The "Christians" of today are taught
THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO!
Yet according to Christ unless we forsake all and take up the cross and follow him we cannot be a Christian. No wonder the Churches are so corrupt. They are full of
THEMSELVES!
No doubt there are millions of tares out that who think they are Christians. Probably
MOST of todays Christians have
NEVER been confronted with Christs terms to be
HIS DISCIPLE.
And if they have they think it sounds like Heresy because it sounds so different than what they were taught. So it is not surprising in this day that most Churches do not have a New Testament "feel" to them.
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