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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
But JESUS is the one who planted the tree.
It was HIS SEED.
It bore no fruit. He gave it TIME. See how that works? Was Jesus giving a mere PROFESSOR more time to bare fruit?
Or does he give his own children time? This is so clear.
Jesus NEVER promises eternal life to anyone who is not overcoming. He always warns that those who don't do his will will be lost.
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I agree with you.
I Corinthians 3:5-9, the "seed" being the Word of God (
Luke 8:11)
"Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
And this does contain truth. MOST of the people that attend Church or claim to be Christians may well be what Jesus called "tares".
Seed planted by satan. They were never true Christians. satan was using them to confuse true Christians. They continue to sin because having not the Holy Spirit they cannot do otherwise.
True Christians see someone who is supposedly "saved" still sinning. They reason hmmm if they can do it and be a Christian why not me?
Many Preachers are tares also. They love to tell people "you dont have to be perfect". Exactly what the devil wants them to believe Then they no longer strive to enter the kingdom and just like Jesus said they wind up being shut out.
So the bottom line is only those who DO the will of God will wind up in the kingdom. This is taught everywhere in the Bible.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matt. 7:21
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And I agree with you here also, as in this instance, the "seed" is from satan - "But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way."
Matthew 13:25
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