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Old 03-24-2012, 10:47 PM
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Re: Anger + Sadness = RAGE

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Following the dispatcher's advice is optional. I don't believe a dispatcher can tell you what to do and what not to do. There was no crime committed in not following the dispatcher's direction. However I'd consider chasing a random person down the street harassment regardless.

My problem is Zimmerman's account of being attacked from behind is not consistent with one witness: the girlfriend.

Zimmerman claimed he got out of the vehicle to look for a street sign and the kid jumped or ran out from nowhere and attacked him from behind.

The girl who was on the phone with Trayvon seconds before the incident suggests that directly before a scuffle took place, Trayvon and Zimmerman exchanged words. Unless Zimmerman was talking to Trayvon with his back turned (which doesn't make any sense to me) the two stories conflict.

The witness that claims that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense claimed Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman. That does not tell us who attacked who, that simply lets us know that regardless of who started it Trayvon got the upper hand. It's very possible Zimmerman started the fight, and just ended up losing. In which case he couldn't claim self-defense because he caused the conflict and in the state of Florida Trayvon doesn't have to retreat he can "stand his ground". Unfortunately we see where that got him.

Quickly and then I'm going to bed because I have to wake up early tomorrow: a problem I have with this witness that just came forward is that he told Zimmerman and Trayvon that he was going to call the police. The police have released 9-11 calls that contain information about what happened that night from other witnesses. None of those 9-11 calls are consistent with this witness' story, nobody called the police and identify themselves as this witness that saw "everything" and I wonder why? Did the witness never get around to calling the police? I've also received word that the FBI is investigating what they believe to be a 9-11 coming from Trayvon Martin in the seconds before the incident occurred.
I'm just saying that if I were the police and I recognized that this man had refused to follow directions from dispatch (especially when the directions were something as reasonable as not following somebody for no reason), I would not be so quick to release him after he killed said person. The 911 call gives a clear indication of his mindset and intentions. "These (expletives), they always get away" and then later "(expletive), he's running".

He had no intentions of remaining with his vehicle like he was instructed. When the dispatcher asked him where he wanted the police to meet him, he said they should call when they got there to find out where he was.
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