Modesty as described by the General Youth Division

[noeticknight]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I appreciate the intelligence that God gives a goose, and recognize it as such. However, I certainly prefer the counsel of godly people above ANY worldly wisdom.

And apparently I'm not the only one who thinks its wise to "discriminate:"

Psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
Psalm 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

I read secular books, watch secular videos, look at secular publications, and I can derive the good and toss out the bad with the best of them. However, if I have a real problem, a real situation, a real hard circumstance in my life that needs tending to, and I'm not sure what to do about it? I will most definitely go to God in prayer first and foremost, and usually to His Word in tandem with that. Third on my list would be to seek godly counsel--from my husband, my mother, my sisters, my pastor, my friends. And last on my list would be from secular sources (if at all), and from people whose opinions might be educated.

Proverbs 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Psalm 121:2 My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.

There is a definite difference between, and yes, a need to "dichotomize" the godly from worldly. Worldly knowledge can be greatly beneficial, and I have no particular bone to pick with it. I just chalk it up as inferior to godly counsel across the board, and rightfully so.

How you define godly people is critical to your premise. Are they those that believe just like you? It could be that the umbrella of God's grace includes more than your little group of fellows. I do have a bone to pick with statements like the bolded. In fact, I believe we had an exchange before, but you didn't seem willing to respond:

YOU: "I'm not completely trusting of worldly counselors, because counselors help people find direction and solutions, and if they don't have a Christian worldview, people will end up being led in a different direction than they should be.

I think it's best to seek out Christian counselors, but I'm not completely opposed to secular counseling. We should be careful whose counsel we hear."

ME: "I would also encourage entering into secular counseling with some level of caution as well. However, wouldn't you agree that the majority of "Christian" counseling has by and large been derived from the research and work of secular psychology?

Also, why stop at psychiatrists/psychologists? Just curious, do you apply the same level of caution when visiting physicians for healthcare or lawyers for legal advice?"

YOU: ___________

I've heard Psalm 1:1 preached like you paint it, but I don't think the writer was talking about natural, secular counseling there. That would be poor exegesis of the Word. But, in the light you present it, Christians must be receiving "inferior" service from doctors and lawyers who don't profess to have the same understanding of God that you do, unless they only do business with doctors and lawyers of like precious faith.