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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I was going to say that my husband's mother didn't believe that Jesus was manifest in the flesh, but I'm not sure. Sometimes she sounded like she believed it and other times she didn't. That's what is a bit confusing in the terminology.
As a child in the Catholic Church, I thought that Jesus and God were two separate people. When I moved out of the house and into my first apartment at 18 years of age, I lay on my bed one night and talked to Jesus, because I was afraid of God. LOL! I said, "I hope you don't mind me talking to you like a regular person, because I need someone to talk to." I was afraid I was going to be in trouble for not saying my Hail Mary's and Our Father! LOL!
I believe Romans when it says - Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
I believe you cannot be saved without His Spirit dwelling in you. I don't care who you are or what you believe. It's in the Word of God.
One thing I don't do is view people and their experiences or my experiences and then make that fit into my theology or belief system. I take the Word for what it commands regardless of how I feel about a person. The Bible says they must be filled or they are none of His.
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First of all who are we to say that those he has filled with his spirit are not saved? Just expanding outside the UPC to the rest of the Pentecostal/Charismatic world, forget the rest of Christendom for a minute. Are those spirit filled believers in the A of G, Foursquare, etc. saved? You have your bent on theology and that's fine, but we better be pretty careful about who we toss out of the kingdom.