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Originally Posted by mizpeh
So, you don't know, but blame it on the Irish? (are you serious?)
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I'm Irish, but I'm not drunk. And yes, as far as the mythic origins of the Irish people goes, I am entirely serious. But the point I was making was this: The popular identification of the modern Russian nation with the Biblical "Gog and Magog" makes less sense than just about any other identification in the past.
Preceding WW1, Darbyists/Dispensationalists were convinced that Gog/Magog were the Ottomans. The simple fact of the matter is: whoever they were in antiquity, the identification was almost purely a Hebrew one. There was no nation known to even the Hebrews who went around calling themselves "Gog and/or Magog." It was a label the Hebrews pinned to some now unknown tribe(s).
If they were the Scythians, as most scholars have speculated, then they are certainly not modern Russians. The Russian peoples arose from a mingling of Vikings from Scandanavia (Rus himself was a noted Viking warlord) and Slavic speaking peoples from the shores of the Baltic Sea.
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Originally Posted by Nina
Where do You get this?
Nina
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I was a history major. In fact, I earned a Doctorate in History (Ph.D.) from Miskatonic University, located in Arkham, Massachusetts. It would be best if no one questioned me about this claim.
You can read the
Lebor Gabála Érenn here (click on the word "here"). You can read about it by clicking on the words "Lebor Gabala Erenn" above.
This is a work of mythic history written around the 1100's. It was obviously influenced by the Bible which was unknown in Ireland before the 300 - 400's AD, but it also calls upon pagan sources of information. The "real" history behind all of this is unfortunately lost. However, there are many elements that have proven true. The story of the Milesian migration including refugees from Egypt (while seeming to be a rip-off of the Israelite story) is actually attested in a couple of ancient Roman and Greek works. So go figure.
I like the part about the Tuatha De Dannan force field the best - though there is probably little liklihood that such science (or "magic") was possessed by anyone in the Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age.
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