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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I am trying to dig a little out of you here.
Does this scripture deal with Jesus still posessing humanity now? or does it speak of his work upon the cross as kinsmen redeemer??
Even though he has a glorified body (the resurrected body), I look at Jesus as having disrobed his humanity, and taken up deity he possessed prior to his birth. If not, what does he mean when he prayed, "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."
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Of course we know that the same man who left us to go away, shall also come again...in fact the angel told His disciples, making it very clear, "THIS SAME JESUS, whom you see going away shall come again..." Same man.
Yes, it also speaks of His work upon the cross as our redeemer. This is true since only in his Sonship is that redemption possible. It is a past work that has everlasting effecaciousness, until redemption plan is fully completed.
His prayer for His Father to glorify Him with thine own self, speaks of the truth that he had already spoken of to his disciples when he said, "I go to the Father," which was in the plan of God before the foundation of the world, that a man would be born in time who would become ONE with him who is eternal. It does not speak of his preexistence as a person with God, except in the plan of God that Jesus was already aware of. Jesus already know his destiny and had the road map to get there, which he followed carefully, right up to his glorification.