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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Saying "No" when asked to do something isn't being unsubmissive. When a person requests a favor, you have the option to say yes or no.
I guess I don't really get what you're talking about. I don't see what this has to do with submission. For instance, when our drama director asks me if I want to participate in the Christmas drama, I can say "Yes", or "No, I don't have time right now", and there's no lack of submission either way.
How can you be unsubmissive to something that isn't a direct instruction?
I suppose I'm looking for an example of something that would be directly commanded or instructed, falling outside of the exceptions I provided, that would lead to a lack of submission. 
Are you talking about requests to fill positions or do certain jobs? Or are you talking about if the pastor gets up and says, "All church members must avoid movie theaters", and you dont' see anything wrong with them, so you disregard the instruction?
Do you see pastors asking saints to fulfill volunteer positions as pressure to submit? Is it wrong for a pastor to make requests of a saint? |
Abbie,
It is more about the idea and the propagation of: before I will use you in the gifts you think you have or things you feel you want to do in the church, such as, teaching, counseling, or administrating you must prove you are willing to do whatever is asked of you. Example: hosting bake sales, scrubbing toilets, garage sales, and church cleanup.
I remember growing up in our church, coming home from Bible college one summer and on Wednesday night Bible study...our Pastor handing out forms for us to look at and check off the areas in the church you are wanting or willing to be used. I checked every box except Center of interest Sunday School teaching. I am not good with little ones, and don't do crafts and such...even then.
I got called into the office and asked to teach Center of Interest. I declined. I was told that I would not be working in the deaf ministry then and they gave the Deaf Ministry Coordinatior position to a young man who was just learning. It was done to show me who was in charge and they would use me where they wanted and not where I wanted. A control thing. I was told I was not submissive and I needed Disciplined. I did not feel I needed discipline as I had done nothing to be disciplined for. [Keep in mind this was 30 years ago]
I hope this is more detailed as to what I am discussing.
Blessings, Rhoni
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