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Originally Posted by n david
You're arguing that a company should be forced to recognize its employees constitutional liberties. You did not offer any exclusions. Those quotes make it appear you are for a company to be forced to pay its employee to be able to protest on their job and during their work hours. And now after I've pointed out the absurdity of your posts, you're backtracking and claiming you didn't post what you did.
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Can you quote me saying that a company should pay an employee while protesting on the job? Like I said, I'm in a union. And we wouldn't be paid if we picketed during work hours. I just don't think a person should lose their job over a civil liberty. And frankly, I think election day should be a mandatory day off.
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Only you would try to claim the paragraph is ambiguous and ignore the part where it states they should stand at attention.
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You're focusing on the secondary point. It says "may" not "shall". Therefore, it is entirely up to the NFL's discretion. If the NFL doesn't wish to use disciplinary action, they have the right not to.
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You should read the article JD posted about why Kap decided to kneel. He thought it would be "powerful." He expected to be hailed as a hero, not denounced. The reason he's not talking is because he saw how badly his dumb protest was received. He thought people would support him.
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Dreams a grandeur. Oh well. I support his right to protest. And I give him props for demonstrating what peaceful protest looks like.
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Should employees be required to follow the rules of its employer? If a player doesn't want to follow the rules, they don't have to sign a contract which pays them a ridiculous amount of money to play a game. If they sign a contract, they should follow the rules. Period.
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Again, where in the "contract" does it specify that players "shall" face disciplinary action if they do not choose to stand for the National Anthem? The NFL guidelines only said "may"... and if the contract doesn't specifically spell it out... those are the rules bro.
I find it strange... we're upset over a fellow American choosing not to stand for the Anthem of the very nation that values individual liberty, the right to protest, freedom of speech, and the freedom of religion.
Do you see the cognitive dissonance?
Or is there a difference between Kaepernick and other protestors?