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Old 01-24-2012, 10:37 AM
NorCal NorCal is offline
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Re: Visited a non UPC church

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No offense to you Norcal, but the idea of Pastoral conviction is hogwash. Where in the NT does the scripture give a precedent for it? Where does scripture teach that a single man has a right to load his own convictions on everyone else?

Paul certainly didn't. He made it clear what was his own opinion and what was not. And when it was just his own opinion, the saints weren't bound to follow it or be considered sinful and rebellious.

Teach people how to love God and follow their own convictions, don't just heap your own issues and problems on all the church.
Acts 20:28; 1 Th. 5:12; Ph. 1:1; 1 Tim. 3:1; Tit. 1:7; Jeremiah 3:15;

If God had not intended for there to be authority in your life, he would have not provided scripture for it.

Heb. 13:17 - Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

We may argue how much authority he should have in your life, but if you do not let him have any, you are biblically wrong.

I agree that a pastor should not "lord" over you (1 Thess. 2:7-8); Should lead by example (1 Pet. 5:3); Care about the welfare of the Saints then their own profit (1 Pet. 5:2); Be humble and not lord over the saints (1 Pet. 5:2); Build people up to free them to God's will (Eph. 4:11-12; 2 Cor. 10:8).

I think I could go on. But it is biblical.

Last edited by NorCal; 01-24-2012 at 10:46 AM.
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