Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Not because of the polygamy, just because it became public again.

Many mainstream mormons still believe that polygamy is okay. And would practice it when it becomes more accepted again.

Uncle Joe Smith taught that the only way to make it into the third heaven was to practice polygamy.

That's what I mean; they let it go under their noses all the time, but when it becomes public, suddenly they have to do something about it.

I don't really see that there's much reason to make polygamy illegal, as long as it's practiced between consenting adults. I don't really get the reasons, from a government standpoint.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

Not because of the polygamy, just because it became public again.

Many mainstream mormons still believe that polygamy is okay. And would practice it when it becomes more accepted again.

Uncle Joe Smith taught that the only way to make it into the third heaven was to practice polygamy.

Actually Joseph Smith said marriage was a part of a womans salvation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...seph_Smith,_Jr

Some wives were under age and some were still married to other men.

Like gay marriage, the motive is to have sex and by reason of marriage it is not named as fornication.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by sandie

But, how will God see it?
How will God view a society that puts their seal of approval on a behavior He calls an abomination?

If liberty mitigates problems, then where does Jesus fit into being the One who helps us in all our problems?

And where would you draw the line in allowing un-natural behaviors?

I do not understand the mentality that says, here...have it your way, now hurry up and figure out this is really bad for you...I don't get it.

Justice Scalia's Dissent
Justice Scalia filed a scathing dissent in this case. He argued that if morality is no longer sufficient justification for regulation, then Lawrence contains the dicta that "ate the rule of law." He further argued that the Court's willingness to overrule Bowers is hypocritical, considering that the doctrine of Roe v. Wade is (in his mind) significantly more flawed and less workable, blasting the Court for being unfaithful to its litmus test for overturning bad law as iterated in the the stare decisis & reliance-based holding of Casey v. Planned Parenthood.[4] Scalia ended by criticizing the Court for selling out to the "homosexual agenda."

Scalia also argued that, despite Justice Kennedy's promises, the case clearly opens the door for the constitutional legalization of gay marriage.


We have laws against using and selling narcotics in private. It is the gays want to destroy the concepot of family. Gay marriage is only a portion of the agenda.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by coadie

Actually Joseph Smith said marriage was a part of a womans salvation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...seph_Smith,_Jr

Some wives were under age and some were still married to other men.

Like gay marriage, the motive is to have sex and by reason of marriage it is not named as fornication.

I think the goal was to have more kids, not preventing fornication.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by coadie

Actually Joseph Smith said marriage was a part of a womans salvation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...seph_Smith,_Jr

Some wives were under age and some were still married to other men.

Like gay marriage, the motive is to have sex and by reason of marriage it is not named as fornication.

To be fair, there have been a LOT of heterosexual marriages where the woman was underage. Only in the last half-century has that really been frowned upon.

It just doesn't make sense to me to outlaw polygamy; what is that based on?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

To be fair, there have been a LOT of heterosexual marriages where the woman was underage. Only in the last half-century has that really been frowned upon.

It just doesn't make sense to me to outlaw polygamy; what is that based on?

It is based on common sense.

Jacob had a perfect example of what a dysfunctional household looked like with 12 sons from 4 mothers.

In the OT women were treated like chattel property.
In Genesis God created a companion for Adam and not a harem.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by coadie

It is based on common sense.

Jacob had a perfect example of what a dysfunctional household looked like with 12 sons from 4 mothers.

In the OT women were treated like chattel property.
In Genesis God created a companion for Adam and not a harem.

So your stance is that a ban on polygamy protects women?

I can understand that, although I don't think that Jacob's house was dysfunctional because there were 4 mothers; it was dysfunctional because he played favorites from the beginning, with both his wives and his children.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

To be fair, there have been a LOT of heterosexual marriages where the woman was underage. Only in the last half-century has that really been frowned upon.

It just doesn't make sense to me to outlaw polygamy; what is that based on?

Years past the life expentency was much shorter, that explains at least in part why it would be considered underage today.

I think outlawing polygamy makes sense to God and as Christians, shouldn't we base our opinions on what He thinks?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by sandie

Years past the life expentency was much shorter, that explains at least in part why it would be considered underage today.

I think outlawing polygamy makes sense to God and as Christians, shouldn't we base our opinions on what He thinks?

Christians should, but our government is not Christian. The goal of polygamy IMO was to have children. And to train girls to be mothers, starting as young as possible. Patriarchal society.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by sandie

Years past the life expentency was much shorter, that explains at least in part why it would be considered underage today.

I think outlawing polygamy makes sense to God and as Christians, shouldn't we base our opinions on what He thinks?

Sandie:

I feel that church and state should be separate, which is why I don't usually quote scriptures in political conversations, but yes, I do my best to base my personal opinions on what God thinks.

God allowed polygamy. I don't think it was what He had set up as ideal from the beginning, but He did allow it. If we're going to go strictly by what He thinks, there aren't any OT laws against it.