Offended by the World

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by kristian's_mom

It is usually a very insecure person that will try to dress like a hooker. You see this more in teenagers and young adults that haven't grown up yet. Most people I know that are "of the world" will not bare their midriff or wear mini skirts and I think it is because of the age group I am in (late 20's).

It all boils down to how much you value yourself as a person, and how you want yourself presented to the world. 90% of the women I know are aware of this and dress accordingly.

When it comes to listening to things like Britney Spears or Lady Gaga, who really listens to that stuff besides children or gay men?

I guess it depends on how you define children.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I guess it depends on how you define children.

my sister N law listens to lady gaga and she is 32

[kristian's_mom]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I guess it depends on how you define children.

[deadeye]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

This isn't the first time you have mentioned dressing your daughters as streetwalker....I think that may be unique to your mindset and culture because no one I know wants their daughters dressed like streetwalkers.

I am glad you are paying attention.....and you are right...no one wants their daughters dressing that way....but that seems to be the fashion now a days....very lowcut blouses, revealing clothes, heavy makeup...etc....looking like ladies of the night.
You see them from nearly toddlers on up.

It is a shame....but if I extrapolate on your view I would begin think that to reach the world they would have to dress that way to "relate"....and that is what is happening already amongst the charismatic, emergent, and liberal OP's....think Todd Bentley....look at so many of the "Christian" bands....they have taken on the extreme...sometimes almost demonic affectations of their secular counterparts.

Is this really reaching the world for Christ?

Yes Jesus ate with sinners and publicans...but he did not share in their sin.
He showed mercy to adulterers and thieves...but He never condoned their actions.

So many today in their desire to become relevant have so weakened and devalued their Christian testimony that it is almost non existent.

I am sure you think I am talking about all the "clothesline" standards that you so enjoy demeaning....but that is a small part of the equation....real Christians do not partake in the filth of this world.
You can justify all kinds of things....but the filthiness of the flesh is still the filthiness of the flesh.

[deadeye]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

And I am still wondering why he continues to reference dressing his daughters up like streetwalkers...is this something that should be reported?

You have no business making the insinuation you just made...i am simply using that example to show the extreme we can go to if we are not careful.

Your little slam at me there makes me sick.

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

When we come in contact with our culture we have a couple of options:

1. We can be offended by our culture and withdraw from it.

2. We can delighted and become assimilated into our culture and look just like it.

3. We can distressed by our culture and engage it and become relevant.

What is the state of Apostolics today? Which category do you fall in?

EXcellent questions!

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by deadeye

You have no business making the insinuation you just made...i am simply using that example to show the extreme we can go to if we are not careful.

Your little slam at me there makes me sick.

But, it's okay for you to insinuate that he thinks your daughter should dress that way to be relevant?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Well I guess it wouldn't surprise you to know that is exactly the song we used two weeks ago.

Did you use the video as well?

[deadeye]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

But, it's okay for you to insinuate that he thinks your daughter should dress that way to be relevant?

No such insinuation...simply using that as an example to show what extremes this line of thinking this sort can lead too.
However he took that opportunity to try to cast aspersions on my moral character....it is disgusting when that happens.

I have ran into this stupidity before...you speak against something and they accuse you of having secret desires for that very thing.
It is a shallow and asinine person that uses character assassination to try to win arguments.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by deadeye

No such insinuation...simply using that as an example to show what extremes this line of thinking this sort can lead too.
However he took that opportunity to try to cast aspersions on my moral character....it is disgusting when that happens.

I have ran into this stupidity before...you speak against something and they accuse you of having secret desires for that very thing.
It is a shallow and asinine person that uses character assassination to try to win arguments.

But, that's where you are wrong. You were using character assassination when you said that to him. It's just stupid. You could have made your point by saying I guess you think it's okay for women to dress in short tight skirts and their cleavage showing to get your point across. Look around - - - all those people that you see dressing that way AREN'T hookers.

And, I'm pretty sure Baron and his family dress modest - - nothing like you are accusing him of being okay with - so the assassination goes both ways.