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Old 10-02-2010, 02:39 PM
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That's not what N....knocking was here when I was a kid. We would go around and knock on someone's door then run. One time a friend got busted and the person that answered the door was black. They asked her what she was doing and she said "whitey knocking" lol. I haven't heard that term in a long long time
Amazing Sam and Prax. I guess im really sheltered !But then my state is probably less than 1 percent, other than white
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Taking the element of perceived hate out of Sanchez's remarks;


"...the media industry more broadly, is run by Jews and elitists who look down on Hispanics like himself."

Do you, or anyone else think that there is any truth to this statement?



So I guess I am the only one who has ever heard of "northeastern elitism"?

I just don't believe that.
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In my own defense, I don't hate Jews, I am glad Israel exists and hope for a peaceful middle east where the Jews can exist without fear of being wiped out by hateful extremists.

I love my country and all of the races of people that help to make America the melting pot we used to be.

Lately it seems were more of a seething stew. I think one of the ways to fix this is open discussion where people are free to express themselves (without being offensive) and without the fear of being labeled racist.
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I first heard the term "n... knocking" at a UPC Bible School in 1956/1957. A young man mentioned something about being bored and continued on with "At least if we were home (in Louisiana) we could go n.... knockin'. When pressed for an explanation of what that meant he explained that they would drive around in a car, see a person of color riding a bike, pull the car up next to him, slow down, and someone would reach through the open car window and hit the bicycle rider with a baseball bat. I was from Wisconsin and was appalled that people down south were doing something like that for fun. I was really appalled that it was being done by Apostolic/Pentecostal youth and they did not see anything wrong with it. I guess I was just naive.


I've only had somebody white throw a bottle at me once growing up in MD. It happened on Route 5 in Waldorf, MD.

I've had several altercations with people of other races and I honestly found the circumstances of those experiences more rattling than the bottle throw.
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Taking the element of perceived hate out of Sanchez's remarks;


"...the media industry more broadly, is run by Jews and elitists who look down on Hispanics like himself."

Do you, or anyone else thinks there is any truth to this statement?



So I guess I am the only one who has ever heard of "northeastern elitism"?

I just don't believe that.
Really? So if some white guy made the same statements about blacks we can just take the "perceived hate" out of such statements?

This anti-antisemitism of yours makes me sick
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Really? So if some white guy made the same statements about blacks we can just take the "perceived hate" out of such statements?

This anti-antisemitism of yours makes me sick
Prax, I am not an anti-Semite.

Neither do I think that what Sanchez said in his frustration was completely void of any truth whatsoever.


It's easy to write the person off as a hater who tries to get you to question why things are the way they are.



Sanchez's frustration: completely groundless or did he over react to a part of life in America that many are just unwilling to confront?
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Prax, I am not an anti-Semite.

Neither do I think that what Sanchez said in his frustration was completely void of any truth whatsoever.


It's easy to write the person off as a hater who tries to get you to question why things are the way they are.



Sanchez's frustration: completely groundless or did he over react to a part of life in America that many are just unwilling to confront?
Rick's comments are typical antisemitic stereo types and you are repeating them. His frustration was aimed at a man, John Stewart and like Mel Gibson on booze his true feelings came out and made the issue about being JEWISH. His comments are bigoted and typical antisemitic stereotypes Id expect to hear from skin heads.

What I saw so far were just accusations and stereotypes aimed at Jews.
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Really? So if some white guy made the same statements about blacks we can just take the "perceived hate" out of such statements?

This anti-antisemitism of yours makes me sick

Furthermore, Sanchez's remarks were not just about Jews.

His frustration encompassed the elitism he perceived, the Northeasterners who smiled in your face, but really don't mean you any good.

You know, the kind of racism that is far more damaging-- the hidden stuff that doesn't exist because you can't see it or prove it right away.



It would be FAR TOO EASY to write Sanchez off as an Anti-Semite.

I don't think that Sanchez is an Anti-Semite.

He expressed, maybe in a very costly fashion, his frustration.

I don't think that his frustration is seated completely in his imagination.
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Furthermore, Sanchez's remarks were not just about Jews.

His frustration encompassed the elitism he perceived, the Northeasterners who smiled in your face, but really don't mean you any good.

You know, the kind of racism that is far more damaging-- the hidden stuff that doesn't exist because you can't see it or prove it right away.



It would be FAR TOO EASY to write Sanchez off as an Anti-Semite.

I don't think that Sanchez is an Anti-Semite.

He expressed, maybe in a very costly fashion, his frustration.

I don't think that his frustration is seated completely in his imagination.
"He's upset that someone of my ilk is almost at his level,"

Sanchez said that Stewart is bigoted toward "everybody else that's not like him." He said Stewart "can't relate to what I grew up with," saying his [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]family[/COLOR][/COLOR] had been poor and he had seen prejudice directed at his father.

"I'm telling you that everyone who runs CNN is a lot like Stewart, and a lot of people who run all the other networks are a lot like Stewart, and to imply that somehow they, the people in this country who are Jewish, are an oppressed minority?" Sanchez said, adding a sarcastic "yeah."

He married “elite, Northeast establishment liberals,”

With the comments about Jews.
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Furthermore, Sanchez's remarks were not just about Jews.
Oh, give the man credit, it wasn't JUST about Jews
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