Salvation Message

[DAII]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Isn't easier to get saved in this movement than to stay saved?

Yes, Pastor Brett Jones hit on this in his message on Sunday ...

In the movement we were a part of ... you were saved on Sunday ... lost on Monday and Tuesday ... saved again on Wednesday ... lost until Sunday again.

It is a message of constant guilt and condemnation where God is looking to condemn rather than save ....

His text and message was centered around God always devising a means to save ... namely in His Son, Jesus Christ ...even when there's no hope and the water seems spilt on the ground ....

For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means, that his banished be not expelled from him. 2 Samuel 14:14

Jesus is the plan of SALVATION.

[misspresley]

If it had not been for Calvary, we would all be lost! The blood of Jesus covers my sins. To be baptized is an act of obedience to a command. The Holy Ghost is a precious gift. It's really not up to me to decide at what point salvation is received. But it is up to me to be obedient and live in all the truth revealed to me.

I think some make it harder to be saved than it is.

[POWERUP]

Originally Posted by Sherri

At some point in every Sunday morning service, we give sinners a chance to repent. But we don't preach Acts 2:38 every week. The first step is getting them saved, and then we give them information about baptism and the Holy Ghost.

Us likewise....................

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Looking for some opinions...

How often should a pastor preach the Salvation message?
My thoughts are that no visitor should ever leave without understanding that they must:

1) Repent
2) Be baptized
3) Receive the Holy Ghost (with speaking in tongues as evidence).

What would you do if you felt your pastor did not preach the salvation message as often as you would like?

Let the Pastor preach as led by the Holy Ghost. Most sermons (I believe) can lead to a call for sinners to repent and have saving faith in Jesus Christ.
Paul said in Acts 20:21 "Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."

You can always do baptism later. Remember that not all churches have baptismal tanks/baths. The church might have to schedule a day to use a nearby river to do baptism. In such case, the pastor might talk about baptism, but obviously not gonna be able to conduct baptisms that day.

[berkeley]

my comment was tic. no need for the history lesson, lol. my pastor is 3 stepper. but you'd think he's a one stepper. he preaches Christ, and Him crucified every service. recently he has been going on about the 3 steps... in passing, it is never the focal point. the assistant pastor is a one stepper.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

Looking for some opinions...

How often should a pastor preach the Salvation message?
My thoughts are that no visitor should ever leave without understanding that they must:

1) Repent
2) Be baptized
3) Receive the Holy Ghost (with speaking in tongues as evidence).

What would you do if you felt your pastor did not preach the salvation message as often as you would like?

For the most part I agree with you. However, I see the Pastor as the "teacher" and "mentor" of the body. It's the body's job to present the Gospel to the Lost and bring them into the church for education regarding the things of God. I look at the spiritual landscape of America... could it be that the "church" is leaving the Salvation message in the hands of those who see as ministers instead of taking it to the ends of the earth on our jobs, when shopping, at the barber shop, beauty salon, pet store, etc???

It is my conviction that a visitor should already understand the salvation message BEFORE coming to church. Just my opinion though.

God bless!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Berkley

my comment was tic. no need for the history lesson, lol. my pastor is 3 stepper. but you'd think he's a one stepper. he preaches Christ, and Him crucified every service. recently he has been going on about the 3 steps... in passing, it is never the focal point. the assistant pastor is a one stepper.

How does that work out in the church having a three stepper and a one stepper as pastor and asst pastor?

[TGBTG]

Originally Posted by Aquila

For the most part I agree with you. However, I see the Pastor as the "teacher" and "mentor" of the body. It's the body's job to present the Gospel to the Lost and bring them into the church for education regarding the things of God. I look at the spiritual landscape of America... could it be that the "church" is leaving the Salvation message in the hands of those who see as ministers instead of taking it to the ends of the earth on our jobs, when shopping, at the barber shop, beauty salon, pet store, etc???

It is my conviction that a visitor should already understand the salvation message BEFORE coming to church. Just my opinion though.
God bless!

Agreed except when the visitor was not actually invited by anyone, IOW just passing by the church and decided to stop by...

[berkeley]

SAM: I stated that you wouldn't know that my pastor is a 3 stepper by the way he preaches. I have been here going on two years. He has gone through the 3 steps maybe 5 times. The impression that I get from the congregation is that there is a mix of PAJC and PCI. Everyone lives in harmony.

[houstonupci]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

1) My thoughts are that I'd hate to have to hear you preach!
2) The three things you listed isn't the message of salvation!

Well, you won't ever have to hear me preach, as I'm not a preacher. Just a person seeking the truth, as I would hope you are. Your arrogance is very annoying to me.