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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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"Crossroads Church ..." ??? Sounds like one of those emergent churches. Guy probably preaches with his shirt untucked as well.
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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If these men have an accountability partner over their shoulder and a wife in their face, sexual temptation is more difficult to act on. Same with handling money. If they are set up in a way they can't have secrets, secret handling, it is much more difficult to follow temptation.
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"Accounta-bila-Buddies." That would have kept him on the straight and narrow. But then again, who do you think he was sharing the money with in his church?
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09-10-2010, 05:41 PM
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/01/20/Pa...e_meltin.shtml
Kind of unrelated, but when googling the church to see if there were any more articles, I found this. Neat idea at least.
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09-10-2010, 05:54 PM
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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"Accounta-bila-Buddies." That would have kept him on the straight and narrow. But then again, who do you think he was sharing the money with in his church?
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What is the legal issue here?
800,000
I suspect the transactions were paper checks and not electronic transfers. Doesn't matter. I suspect there were as usual less that 2 dozen transfers. If the church has to provide its records in a criminal audit, would there be an alarm if the accounts didn't match offerings deposits?
The reporter says the money went to the church. I suspect he pulled out a lot for himself.
Just a side note. Funds taken by theft are treated as income. Repayment of "embezzled funds" is not a tax deduction. He has to pay taxes on the money. He has to report it on his taxes. Rarely do embezzlements also get crimonal process by reason of the IRS.
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My friend with a small hamburger stand went to the bank on Monday to get one dollar bills for the cash register. The bank said they couldn't help him because the baptist church hadn't made their Monday deposit yet.
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09-10-2010, 05:56 PM
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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"Crossroads Church ..." ??? Sounds like one of those emergent churches. Guy probably preaches with his shirt untucked as well.
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and a minor beard under the lip plus the seeker friendly beard below that.
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09-10-2010, 06:04 PM
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
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09-10-2010, 06:16 PM
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Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
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Perhaps it should be past tense then. It's just still unfathomable to me that someone that I heard speak and admired so much was doing this on the side. He seemed like a great man of God may work better.
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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Great man of God? Man, I never get it when people say stuff like that. So you liked him, fine, but....
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I sort of "correct" the saying when I hear it... "You mean a man of a Great God right?" 
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09-10-2010, 06:24 PM
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Re: Former UPCI Pastor pleads guilty to embezzleme
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Perhaps it should be past tense then. It's just still unfathomable to me that someone that I heard speak and admired so much was doing this on the side. He seemed like a great man of God may work better.
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Yeah, I can go along with that. 
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I sort of "correct" the saying when I hear it... "You mean a man of a Great God right?" |
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