Gay Marriage: For or Against?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by DAII

I believe God abhors all sin, Esther ... amen.

Thank God for His Son!

The verdict is out on Chuck and Coadie.

Can you explain your fondness for gay websites that say it is not sin? Seems like an obvious contradiction. Whatover.org is something you seem to be following closely.
The gay agenda is to twist the bible and like yourself, use the culture to change laws, scriptures and legal traditions. This is why our side needs DOMA to have voters values respected.

Why are you defending just the gays?

[coadie]

Scottish Episcopal Church has caused controversy by removing masculine references to God in a new order of service.

The new form of worship, which removes words such as 'Lord, he, his, him' and 'mankind' from services, has been written by the church in an attempt to acknowledge that God is 'beyond human gender'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0yqvJIPM1

The progressive gay agenda. I am sure the feminists have issues with the Patriarchs.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

"legal union" doesn't protec parties. Singles ahve protection.




2009

Psychologists admit it may be a religious problem because they can't help gays.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle...#ixzz0yqcCOxwA

Our liberal churches are loaded with folks that place the culture above their faith. Gotta please the people and lower civil standards.

People pleasers and seeker friendly churches. They can't have big churches if they don't support gay marriage?

No one said that churches can't teach deliverance through the power of Jesus... nor has anyone said that churches should support gay marriage.

I believe that people can be delivered from anything through the power of Christ. I'm leery about "therapies".

I'd never say that a church has to support something it doesn't believe is right within their congregation. At the same time... I'd say that a church shouldn't "force" it's convictions on all of America.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Can you explain your fondness for gay websites that say it is not sin? Seems like an obvious contradiction. Whatover.org is something you seem to be following closely.
The gay agenda is to twist the bible and like yourself, use the culture to change laws, scriptures and legal traditions. This is why our side needs DOMA to have voters values respected.

Why are you defending just the gays?

Coadie... it's simply a difference in interpretation. Many devout Christians are divided on how to interpret such passages. Just accept it. We have freedom of religion. If a church wishes to believe something (even if it's theologically incorrect) they have that right.

So that brings us to churches that take these interpretations. Do we codify our interpretation of this issue and deny them the freedom of religion?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Esther

But forcing your beliefs on those that disagree is ok with you?

On Friday, the Washington Post's Ruth Marcus actually accused the former Alaska governor of being homophobic for calling reporters "limp" and "impotent."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz0yr0PTzZa

Part of the gay agenda is name calling. It is a way to pressure people to change their views I guess.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie... it's simply a difference in interpretation. Many devout Christians are divided on how to interpret such passages. Just accept it. We have freedom of religion. If a church wishes to believe something (even if it's theologically incorrect) they have that right.

So that brings us to churches that take these interpretations. Do we codify our interpretation of this issue and deny them the freedom of religion?

Moving the goal posts. What does freedom of religion have to do with Defense of marriage Act?
Actually forcing your views is the opposite of freedom of religion. The men of sodom tried to force their views also. Tried to break the door down. The men of Sodom were intolerant of the strangers.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

Moving the goal posts. What does freedom of religion have to do with Defense of marriage Act?
Actually forcing your views is the opposite of freedom of religion. The men of sodom tried to force their views also. Tried to break the door down. The men of Sodom were intolerant of the strangers.

While I would never perform a gay marriage, I have an ucle-in-law who was Dean of the Anglican Academy and has traveled extensively outside of the United States. He's performed them. He takes the liberal interpretation of Scriptures as being the truth. He states that his religion allows for such unions and that by prohibitting him from performing them in the United States the United States is prohibitting his freedom of religion.

I've debated him on the subject a number of times in friendly discussion. He asked how I'd feel if the government demanded that I not perform a union I believed was proper? I can see his point, though disagree with the practice itself. This is America... a free country. Some of us intend to keep it that way... even though many will use that freedom to do what we don't agree with.

Freedom is sacred... even when men choose to use that freedom to do what is believed to be unholy.

[Aquila]

Frankly, the government shouldn't be in the marriage business. People should be able to be married in whatever form they desire and simply file it with the government. A "hands off approach" makes individuals responsible before God. The government should merely keep a record of unions formed by consenting adults.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by coadie

Can you explain your fondness for gay websites that say it is not sin? Seems like an obvious contradiction. Whatover.org is something you seem to be following closely.
The gay agenda is to twist the bible and like yourself, use the culture to change laws, scriptures and legal traditions. This is why our side needs DOMA to have voters values respected.

Why are you defending just the gays?

Goofy, can you please keep your eye on the ball? (Pun intended)

Humungo Strawman. I don't do rabbit trails, jefe.

No one expressed an affinity or fondness for gay websites ... I simply referenced a quote that mainly quoted GOD-BREATHED scripture related to the THE TOPIC AT HAND between you and I ... namely your fallacious interpretation of Genesis 6 and the cause of God's wrath towards Sodom and Gomorrah ... as illuminated to us through other biblical references.

and highlighting the fact that some GAY guy is able to interpret this passage more soundly than you can.

I have also expressed my belief that homosexuality, like all sexual immorality is wrong. That their assertion about a gay relationship between David and Jonathon is as FALLACIOUS as your view on the CAUSE for GOD"S WRATH ON SODOM AND GOMORRAH ... and the clear witness in Scripture that ALL SIN is ABHORRENT AND DETESTED BY A HOLY GOD ... as evident with Sodom.

I have no intent in defending all of their views as much as you don't support the conclusion that being gay is genetic as the study you sought to rely on earlier in the thread.

Is it that hard for you to stay focused? Or is your obsession with this topic a rouse for your inner monster?

Compartmentalize.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Coadie... it's simply a difference in interpretation. Many devout Christians are divided on how to interpret such passages. Just accept it. We have freedom of religion. If a church wishes to believe something (even if it's theologically incorrect) they have that right.

So that brings us to churches that take these interpretations. Do we codify our interpretation of this issue and deny them the freedom of religion?

We do not deny them freedom of religion. You seem to have a bad habit of making up strawmen.

http://whosoever.org/rainbowfish/

These are the gay churches that seem to have freedom. Ask DAII. he follows these folks for some reason.

As gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Christians, we often feel isolated. Whether we live in the midst of a bustling city or in the most remote area of the world, we often find it hard to make connections with other GLBT Christians in our area.

Whosoever Rainbow Fish groups hope to help GLBT Christians to connect with each other, not just online but in real life.