The Mosque Should Be Built! - Page 31

crakjak · #**301** 09-01-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Why are you guys fighting ... it really doesn't matter ... in the end ...

No one is enemies ... we're all brothers ... we're all saved by our Heavenly Father at the end of the age ...

Right, Crakjak?

Sometimes I wish he'd become a Unitarian like various of our former Presidents already ... and be consistent.

We are caretakers of the world in the meantime, Danny Boy.

Brothers in humanity, yes, but siblings can be incredibly cruel to one another. Our task is to reconcile men to God and to one another.

Yes, Jesus came to seek and to save the lost.....you believe He will fail.

Twisp · #**302** 09-01-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

this comparison is no comparison at all, the number of radicals in islam and their connections to "peaceful muslims" is vast. The number of radical christians that would actually kill abortion doctors is minuscule. Muslims are blowing up muslims, israelis or others daily and have been for years, islam is at war with the world, the world is in denial. one objective, a world controlled by islam. Christians have no such goal. share the gospel, yes, control the world to be christian, by law, no.

Show me one nation of peaceful islam, and then you have a plan to begin, doesn't exist.

Christians do have a similar goal. Did you forget what the Bible says happens in Revelations? lol God doesn't come back and give passes to all of the other religions that don't believe Him.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

That sounds pretty similar to "a world controlled by islam", just with a Christian slant.

crakjak · #**303** 09-01-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

The majority of Muslims in America seem very peaceful. It is the Christians in America that seem to be the extremist in this situation.

Again, I would just like some proof that this cultural center is the front of a terrorist organization. You and others keep spouting that, I would like to see something that backs it up.

Individual Muslims are peaceful because the are powerless, they have escaped their bondage to America, but many are still sympathetic to aggressive Islam, and are fearful of offending Allah. I have many Muslim customers, and they are gracious on the surface, but the hatred and bitterness is just below the surface. Similar in many ways to hell fire and brimstone breathing "Christians" ei; the Phelps group.

DAII · #**304** 09-01-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

We are caretakers of the world in the meantime, Danny Boy.

Brothers in humanity, yes, but siblings can be incredibly cruel to one another. Our task is to reconcile men to God and to one another.

Yes, Jesus came to seek and to save the lost.....you believe He will fail.

He has not failed .... he has afforded salvation to all who believe on Him giving all at the Cross for our justification... all who do not believe on him are condemned.

I don't see the explicit ... cut and dry text where all of humanity will be ultimately saved ... it would seem the apostolic writers would have been blatant about it and not cryptic.

I don't violently use pet verses like the UR heretics ... especially the proof texting done with Romans ... nor am I willing to bank on a long shot.

As for siblings being cruel ... just turn off the talk radio ... and you might think straight and stop calling your "brothers" ... enemies.

crakjak · #**305** 09-01-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

Christians do have a similar goal. Did you forget what the Bible says happens in Revelations? lol God doesn't come back and give passes to all of the other religions that don't believe Him. He sends them to a hell to be punished eternally.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

That sounds pretty similar to "a world controlled by islam", just with a Christian slant.

I don't agree with the traditional interpretation of Revelation, well documented in the debate area.

No Christian group of significance, is actively pursuing such a goal.

Twisp · #**306** 09-01-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

I don't agree with the traditional interpretation of Revelation, well documented in the debate area.

No Christian group of significance, is actively pursuing such a goal.

All Christians are actively pursuing that goal.

Even if you don't agree with the harshness of the language, do you not still believe that a Christian Lord will rule over everything, and that the Christian religion will be the only one left in the end?

That, my friend, is world domination.

crakjak · #**307** 09-01-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

He has not failed .... he has afforded salvation to all who believe on Him giving all at the Cross... all who do not believe on him are condemned.

I don't see the explicit ... cut and dry text where all of humanity will be ultimately saved ... it would seem the apostolic writers would have been blatant about and not cryptic.

I don't violently use pet verses like the UR heretics ... especially the proof texting done with Romans ... nor am I willing to bank on a long shot.

As for siblings being cruel ... just turn off the talk radio ... and you might think straight.

It is not cryptic, it has been overlaid with the lens of tradition and distorted. If you want to debate UR, take it to the debate area. I know He hasn't failed, however, tradition presents the results of the Cross as failure. God unable to overcome the will of man, to save man.

crakjak · #**308** 09-01-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

All Christians are actively pursuing that goal.

Even if you don't agree with the harshness of the language, do you not still believe that a Christian Lord will rule over everything, and that the Christian religion will be the only one left in the end?

That, my friend, is world domination.

God, no more embraces "Christian" abuse, than He does "Islamic" abuse. He is coming to set ALL things right.

Twisp · #**309** 09-01-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

God, no more embraces "Christian" abuse, than He does "Islamic" abuse. He is coming to set ALL things right.

Yes, a CHRISTIAN God is coming to set all things right. How is that different than them wanting an Islamic world?

coadie · #**310** 09-01-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisp

The majority of Muslims in America seem very peaceful. It is the Christians in America that seem to be the extremist in this situation.

Again, I would just like some proof that this cultural center is the front of a terrorist organization. You and others keep spouting that, I would like to see something that backs it up.

Like your dishonest claim of frothing at the mouth. Can you cite an example?
What about citing an example like the ft Hood massacre. Ooops, that was a Muslim