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Old 09-01-2010, 07:48 AM
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Your mindset, carried to its logical conclusion, would require Christians to stay silent on issues such as rape, theft, and slander as well. After all, those are legal issues just as much as marriage is a legal issue. Why enforce righteousness in those areas?
Charnock you are running to the absurd here. rape, theft and slander are issues where innocents are being harmed. It is the primary role of government to protect innocents from predation.

Christians, just like all others in a civil society have a responsibility to protect the innocent.
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Old 09-01-2010, 09:55 AM
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Coadie... you're not answering my questions. Could a therapy turn you gay? Is being straight really a choice for you? I mean, could you actually choose to be gay?
If you want the therapy to turn you gay. Strait is a default setting. Sure, one can choose to be gay. If one doesn't want to respond to therapy, it doesn't work.
Claims that reparation therapy does damage are false.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:01 AM
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More poor hermeneutic ... from the theocrat.
Genesis 19:1-4:


Who came to see the messengers of God? The men, the young men, the old men, "all the people from every quarter." What does this say about this town? Were ALL of the males in the city homosexual? They ALL were here at Lot's front door, weren't they.

Genesis 19:5:


There's that word again, "know." There is no Old Testament text where "yadah" refers to homosexual sex! The only passage ever quoted is THIS one. The less ambiguous word "shakhabh" is used for heterosexual intercourse as well as homosexual intercourse and beastial intercourse. "Shakhabh" appears fifty times in the Old Testament. If it had been used in this passage, the real meaning would have been clear. As it is, there are NO grounds for assuming that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of homosexuality. If the story is taken in context and in light of the other passages, it is easier to understand. Because "yadah" is a word of aquaintance, some have suggested that a serious breach of hospitality was implied. That is certainly to be taken into consideration.

Back to the story: Lot offered his two daughters instead. Women were looked upon as far inferior to men. Lot was trying to pacify the group and considered the two visitors more important than his own beautiful daughters.

Genesis 19:6-13:



http://www.whosoever.org/v2i3/sodom.htm
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Leave out the inconvenient verses and use the filter on the rest.


The word "homosexual" was only recently invented.
You seem to interpret scripture by readin Lot's mind.

What did he mean when he called their behavior wicked?
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If you want the therapy to turn you gay. Strait is a default setting. Sure, one can choose to be gay. If one doesn't want to respond to therapy, it doesn't work.
Claims that reparation therapy does damage are false.
Actually, according to the research you offered earlier, homosexuality has a biological basis. Trust me, I was surprised to see you take that stance also, based on your previous posts, but apparently you believe that.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:04 AM
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Rainbow Hermeneutics

Leave out the inconvenient verses and use the filter on the rest.


The word "homosexual" was only recently invented.
You seem to interpret scripture by readin Lot's mind.

What did he mean when he called their behavior wicked?
You're the one reading his mind ...

Are you submitting everytime we read wickedness in the Bible ... it's code FOR GAY??

This is why your becoming the butt of our jokes.

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You're the one reading his mind ...

Are you submitting everytime we read wickedness in the Bible ... it's code FOR GAY??

This is why your becoming the butt of our jokes.
bad choice of words for this topic. lol
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:07 AM
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bad choice of words for this topic. lol
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FREEDOM is sacred. LIBERTY is holy.

Even when the same freedoms and liberty allows others to make sinful personal choices.
Indeed. And, while reading your post, the following thought came to mind...

Freedom is sacred, Liberty is Holy, and taking un-granted power over another is evil... in every form.
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Coadie Logic:

All the men from every quarter in Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked.
Wicked means gay.
All the men at Lot's door were wicked and gay.
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Actually, according to the research you offered earlier, homosexuality has a biological basis. Trust me, I was surprised to see you take that stance also, based on your previous posts, but apparently you believe that.
Give an example. I know what I believe. The example I gave was one study showed in identical twins, if 1 was gay the other one was only gay 38% of the time. In black twins, if one is black, they are both black. In identical twins, we can test a lot of nature vs nurture questions. We covered that in psychology 201. Identical twins are identical in physical ways. In regards to gay behavior, not even close.

Since you are on a roll of misquoting, another example. Give a neurologist a hypothalmus and let him predict whether it was a gay or not. Real blind study. Can't do it?
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