Has AFF been FEMINIZED?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Has AFF changed? Yes. In three years, I bet most of your churches/families/yourself has changed too.

Great point, Renda. For sure, we have changed a LOT. I have never believed in a million years that I would stick around here. And I've ended up loving it. I think AFF is better than ever.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by CC1

Yes. He made the atmosphere intolerable for most conservatives. I am an exUPCer who "went Charismatic" in the minds of UPC folks many years ago but found that being a gentleman and using some common sense I could have some great discussions with the most conservative of Old Time Oneness Pentecostals who without a doubt personally think I am splitting hell wide open. That concept fell by the wayside with the arrival of DA and his little posse who thought being confrontational and condescending to conservatives was great sport.

Yipes. CC1, I haven't seen you so vocal and angry since that preacher's wife shot and killed her husband dead (in the back) and only got a little time.

As for me, I never knew what did happen around here. I just knew there was a large conservaive exodus at some point. But I was so in and out of the forum and changing so much in my own life, I never could follow it.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Barb

You may call Elder E a "bully-tyrant" and that is your right. I am not conservative, moderate would be more like it, and I didn't agree with everything he said or the way he said it.

But even many on this forum who disagreed with him, in particular, those no longer on board the Mothership, have more respect for him than to call him such a thing.

It's ridiculous...

And how typical to assume that because some may disagree with Dan and others means we do not believe in grace, or that we think they are evil.

I am saved by grace, believe in grace, and witness of His grace whenever possible.

To assume otherwise is untrue.

I frankly never had any respect for Epley. I thought he was totally obnoxious. Just sayin'.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Brutal thread.

AFF is not what it was. It used to be a place where people with diverse ideologies clashed.

No more.

AFF has one ideology. That ideology includes a venomous hatred for all things Oneness Pentecostal.

AFF is a church. A religious movement. A political action committee whose entire purpose is to tear down basic doctrinal truths like the Oneness of God, Holy Spirit baptism and the need for righteous living.

Hate your pastor? AFF is for you.

Hate being told no? AFF is for you?

Hate absolutes? AFF is for you?

Deny God exists? AFF is for you.

Mock tongue talkers? AFF is for you.

It IS revolting, and entirely sad. It wasn't always this way. The depth of blasphemy represented is staggering.

But that's because so many of the conservatives left. They left a gaping hole. They chose to do it. I couldn't say why. Wimps, I guess.

[Charnock]

The old mantra of "You're a big fat theologically ignorant coward if you don't stay around and post on a playground where atheistic, agnostic and anti-Pentecostal smarty-mcsmart-smarts are given a free pass to be rude" is just plain stupid.

Friends, I've gone toe to toe with the best of 'em. It just gets old when it's a constant stream of backsliders whining about everything wrong with the church. Especially when they are admitted atheists posting on a supposedly Christian forum.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Charnock

The old mantra of "You're a big fat theologically ignorant coward if you don't stay around and post on a playground where atheistic, agnostic and anti-Pentecostal smarty-mcsmart-smarts are given a free pass to be rude" is just plain stupid.

Friends, I've gone toe to toe with the best of 'em. It just gets old when it's a constant stream of backsliders whining about everything wrong with the church. Especially when they are admitted atheists posting on a supposedly Christian forum.

Attitude is everything. If they who were spiritual woud restore such an one in the spirit of meekness, things might be different. It can be done, but the pastors who used to be here found it easier to find fault and call everyone backsliding whiners.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ILG

I frankly never had any respect for Epley. I thought he was totally obnoxious. Just sayin'.

I think very highly of Eld. Epley, just don't agree with him on some things.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sam

I think very highly of Eld. Epley, just don't agree with him on some things.

Yeah, I know a lot of people do, but I don't. I don't know why people respect him.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Charnock

The old mantra of "You're a big fat theologically ignorant coward if you don't stay around and post on a playground where atheistic, agnostic and anti-Pentecostal smarty-mcsmart-smarts are given a free pass to be rude" is just plain stupid.

Friends, I've gone toe to toe with the best of 'em. It just gets old when it's a constant stream of backsliders whining about everything wrong with the church. Especially when they are admitted atheists posting on a supposedly Christian forum.

Wow!! You sure have a high view of your brothers and sisters who don't see eye to eye with you. We are backsliders and whiners?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by ILG

Attitude is everything. If they who were spiritual would restore such an one in the spirit of meekness, things might be different. It can be done, but the pastors who used to be here found it easier to find fault and call everyone backsliding whiners.

I think that is way too broad brush.

I am a pastor, and I didn't do that. I know several other pastors who used to post here, and they never did that.

Truth is, there is no good reason for any atheist, agnostic or backslider to be here other than to act like idiots.