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Old 05-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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I Corinthians 12:8-10

I'm confused as to why the working of miracles would be seperate from the gifts of healing.

Also wondering why "gifts" was used in a plural form.
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not all miracles are healings???
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Not all healings are miracles???
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I hear an echo...echo....echo

Now to the next question why would "gifts" be in the plural form? Could it be that it was because the gifts of healing were not as supernatural as we have thought. Could it be a reference to God's giving of medical knowledge to the physicians of the day?
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I hear an echo...echo....echo

Now to the next question why would "gifts" be in the plural form? Could it be that it was because the gifts of healing were not as supernatural as we have thought. Could it be a reference to God's giving of medical knowledge to the physicians of the day?
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For what it's worth verse 9 uses the plural of the word Charisma ... in the Greek text ....

Charisma

xa/risma from (5483)Transliterated WordPhonetic Spelling Charisma khar'-is-mah

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  1. a favour with which one receives without any merit of his own
  2. the gift of divine grace
  3. the gift of faith, knowledge, holiness, virtue
  4. the economy of divine grace, by which the pardon of sin and eternal salvation is appointed to sinners in consideration of the merits of Christ laid hold of by faith
  5. grace or gifts denoting extraordinary powers, distinguishing certain Christians and enabling them to serve the church of Christ, the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating on their souls by the Holy Spirit
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For what it's worth verse 9 uses the plural of the word Charisma ... in the Greek text ....

Charisma

xa/risma from (5483)Transliterated WordPhonetic Spelling Charisma khar'-is-mah

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  1. a favour with which one receives without any merit of his own
  2. the gift of divine grace
  3. the gift of faith, knowledge, holiness, virtue
  4. the economy of divine grace, by which the pardon of sin and eternal salvation is appointed to sinners in consideration of the merits of Christ laid hold of by faith
  5. grace or gifts denoting extraordinary powers, distinguishing certain Christians and enabling them to serve the church of Christ, the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating on their souls by the Holy Spirit
The Greek word "kharisma" is actually more rightly interpreted "divine favor". It come from the word "kharizesthai" which means - TO FAVOR. And the root of that is "kharis" is simply the noun "favor" The word is completely consistent with talents as opposed to miraculous supernatural manifestations
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I'm confused as to why the working of miracles would be seperate from the gifts of healing.

Also wondering why "gifts" was used in a plural form.
At first glance, I'm thinking Miracles are normally defined as an instantaneous event - though not always. Healings could be a slower process. I'll be right back with more on this subject.
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