From Dust to Dust

[SRM]

Ecc 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; and man hath no preeminence above the beasts: for all is vanity.

Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Believe it or not there are some here who would argue with Solomon here

[Sam]

submitted online by the mother of a four year old

The Sermon I think this Mom will never forget...this particular Sunday sermon.....'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust...' He would have continued but at that moment my very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to me and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four year old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

[SRM]

Originally Posted by Sam

submitted online by the mother of a four year old

The Sermon I think this Mom will never forget...this particular Sunday sermon.....'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust...' He would have continued but at that moment my very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to me and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four year old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

LOL good one Sam!

[Sneekee]

I think we could stand to quote this passage with a little more context, and with consistent terminology:

Ecc 3:16 Then again I saw under the sun: In the place of right-ruling, wrongness was there. And in the place of righteousness, wrongness was there.

Ecc 3:17 I said in my heart, “Elohim judges the righteous and the wrong, for there is a time for every matter and for every work.”

Ecc 3:18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the matter of the sons of Adam, Elohim selects them, so as to see that they themselves are behemah.”

Ecc 3:19 For the event of the sons of Adam is also the event of behemah – one event befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Indeed, they all have one ruach– Adam has no advantage over behemah. For all is futile.

Ecc 3:20 All are going to one place – all came from the dust, and all return to dust.

Ecc 3:21 Who knows the ruach of the sons of Adam, which goes upward, and the ruach of behemah, which goes down to the earth?

[SRM]

Originally Posted by Sneekee

I think we could stand to quote this passage with a little more context, and with consistent terminology:

Ecc 3:16 Then again I saw under the sun: In the place of right-ruling, wrongness was there. And in the place of righteousness, wrongness was there.

Ecc 3:17 I said in my heart, “Elohim judges the righteous and the wrong, for there is a time for every matter and for every work.”

Ecc 3:18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the matter of the sons of Adam, Elohim selects them, so as to see that they themselves are behemah.”

Ecc 3:19 For the event of the sons of Adam is also the event of behemah – one event befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Indeed, they all have one ruach– Adam has no advantage over behemah. For all is futile.

Ecc 3:20 All are going to one place – all came from the dust, and all return to dust.

Ecc 3:21 Who knows the ruach of the sons of Adam, which goes upward, and the ruach of behemah, which goes down to the earth?

Yes...very much agree..I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will oneday be ressurected..It is very clear,Adam was made from the dust and it would be to the dust He would return why?..Some say because He sinned,but does the scripture teach this?..I do not think so..God told Adam He would return to the dust because..from OUT OF IT thou was taken..

[Rev]

Originally Posted by SRM

Yes...very much agree..I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will oneday be ressurected..It is very clear,Adam was made from the dust and it would be to the dust He would return why?..Some say because He sinned,but does the scripture teach this?..I do not think so..God told Adam He would return to the dust because..from OUT OF IT thou was taken..

(1Co 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

(Joh 3:5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(Joh 3:6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by Sam

submitted online by the mother of a four year old

The Sermon I think this Mom will never forget...this particular Sunday sermon.....'Dear Lord,' the minister began, with arms extended toward heaven and a rapturous look on his upturned face. 'Without you, we are but dust...' He would have continued but at that moment my very obedient daughter who was listening leaned over to me and asked quite audibly in her shrill little four year old girl voice, 'Mom, what is butt dust?'

[Sneekee]

Originally Posted by SRM

Yes...very much agree..I do not understand how and where people insist that their body will oneday be ressurected..It is very clear,Adam was made from the dust and it would be to the dust He would return why?..Some say because He sinned,but does the scripture teach this?..I do not think so..God told Adam He would return to the dust because..from OUT OF IT thou was taken..

I think Biblical consistency leads the student plainly to a spiritual resurrection, but dispensationalism, when a society is so strongly permeated with it, must be peeled off of a person in layers like an onion.

But about this "dust" from which Adam was taken--

Gen 3:14 And YHWH Elohim said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all the behemah and more than every animal of the field. On your belly you are to go, and eat dust all the days of your life.

Isa 65:25 “Wolf and lamb feed together, a lion eats straw as an ox, and dust is the snake’s food. They shall do no evil, nor destroy in all My set-apart mountain,” said YHWH.

Do snakes eat dirt for food?

[SteppingStone]

Originally Posted by Sneekee

I think Biblical consistency leads the student plainly to a spiritual resurrection, but dispensationalism, when a society is so strongly permeated with it, must be peeled off of a person in layers like an onion.

But about this "dust" from which Adam was taken--

Gen 3:14 And YHWH Elohim said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all the behemah and more than every animal of the field. On your belly you are to go, and eat dust all the days of your life.

Isa 65:25 “Wolf and lamb feed together, a lion eats straw as an ox, and dust is the snake’s food. They shall do no evil, nor destroy in all My set-apart mountain,” said YHWH.

Do snakes eat dirt for food?

It's an allegory to say that Satan feeds off the deeds of our flesh...

[Sneekee]

Originally Posted by SteppingStone

It's an allegory to say that Satan feeds off the deeds of our flesh...

If it's an allegory, then what about Adam, who was taken from the dust?