Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Ahhhh that's so funny. When someone asked who wrote Hebrews one of my classmates offered up Sis. Myrick.

She must have taught Greek to half the UPC.

I didn't survive Mary Lou Myrick. Bless her heart, I'm sure she knew her stuff, but I couldn't get it.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Wow. I am off to bed but I have written a little about this on my blog, esp the Comma. "missing text"??

http://evidentialfaith.blogspot.com/...John%205%3A7-8

Good night!

I'll hook you up to my blog where I wrote about the missing portion of I John 5:7 that was supposed to be translated, "For there are three persons that bear record in heaven." Oneness militants that worked for King James went in AFTER the work was done and removed that word, knowing that someday the absence of the word "persons" would spawn an entire generation of apologetic conferences.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by notofworks

I didn't survive Mary Lou Myrick. Bless her heart, I'm sure she knew her stuff, but I couldn't get it.

I doubt she is still around to translate and I also doubt that the UPC has many others to offer that spent as much time with the Greek text as she did over the years.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

I doubt she is still around to translate and I also doubt that the UPC has many others to offer that spent as much time with the Greek text as she did over the years.

I wish I would have....or could have.....stayed awake and paid attention in her classes. I might've learned something!!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

The credentials of the NWT translators hasn't been shown. They have it hush hush. THey also demonstrate ignorance of the text of Scripture (John 1:1, Phil 2, etc). You are comparing an apple and an orange. Oneness scholars have just as much right as a Trinitarian to translate. Your bigotry here is obvious. I am not saying we read nothing else but it should be done. It is a responsible thing to do IMHO.

Given the past methodologies that were accepted as "scholarship" by the Oneness Movement, I share some of the trepidation of the others about any proposed "Oneness translation."

Grossly sloppy errors and outright fabrications were and still are embraced. The level of education when it comes to the Creation debate is so dismal that several outright frauds are making a living teaching mindless drivel in place of real science and the Word of God.

The whole movement is fraught with dopiness.

However, there simply is no one to my knowledge who is capable of even steering a committee on the matter of Bible translations. I think the point is pretty moot. The Oneness community can't even get the subject of granny's knickers ironed out. What makes anyone think it's matured to the level of attempting a Bible translation?

I used to sell Bibles to this movement. Don't even get me started.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by pelathais

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I used to sell Bibles to this movement. Don't even get me started.

Did the 1611 KJV with the Apocrypha sell well?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Sam

Did the 1611 KJV with the Apocrypha sell well?

LOL. No.

People would always ask for "the original King James" (a NKJV had recently been published). To move things along you'd just show them one of the standard revisions from 1850, and bite your tongue.

A lot of folks were asking for a "King James in Spanish" at that time. Apparently the Spanish language had just been invented in the late 1970s and so suddenly OPs were scurrying to evangelize these new speakers.

The conversations were always dreary. A "King James in Spanish? But the King James is an English translation. Perhaps you are looking for a Spanish Bible?"

"Yes! But I want a King James Version in Spanish."

"Well, King James being an English king and all, and England in fact being at war with Spain at the time, I really don't think the Authorized committee prepared anything in the Spanish language back in the 17th Century."

"Huh?"

"Here's a Reina-Valera version. It's very popular among Protestant Spanish speaking people..."

"NO! I want a KING JAMES IN SPANISH!"

"uhhh... 'Reina-Valera' is Spanish for 'King James.'"

"Why didn't you say so in the first place?"

I did, every time after that.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Given the past methodologies that were accepted as "scholarship" by the Oneness Movement, I share some of the trepidation of the others about any proposed "Oneness translation."

Grossly sloppy errors and outright fabrications were and still are embraced. The level of education when it comes to the Creation debate is so dismal that several outright frauds are making a living teaching mindless drivel in place of real science and the Word of God.

The whole movement is fraught with dopiness.

However, there simply is no one to my knowledge who is capable of even steering a committee on the matter of Bible translations. I think the point is pretty moot. The Oneness community can't even get the subject of granny's knickers ironed out. What makes anyone think it's matured to the level of attempting a Bible translation?

I used to sell Bibles to this movement. Don't even get me started.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

No, I saw the LOL. However, the response is rooted in literal ignorance. Not trying to be offensive just letting you know. I realize the versatility of joking as well.

I am ignorant, but I know better than to be a card carrying oneness slapostolic......Just Saying.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Oneness Pentecostal Apologetics Conference coming up in March, 2011 in Lufkin, TX. Attentive dates are March 4 and 5th.

Sessions on cultural and doctrinal apologetics with public debate between the Oneness and Trintiy worldviews. There will also be sessions on God, Evil, and Inspiration of Scriptures. David Bernard will also be lecturing on the Oneness of God. There will also be panel Q n A's as well.

If you can help sponsor this event or want more info contact Jorge ...Medina or myself. james4christ@gmail.com or faithdefenders@hotmail.com

Bump. Just wanted to refocus this thread as it got a little sidetracked last night. The topics of the apologetic conference will be on

Problem of Evil,
Existence of God,
Inspiration of Scripture,
Oneness of God.

Debates nightly to be held at Eastview United Pentecostal Church, pastor David Hunt. DVD and Audio, Books, etc. will be available. These sessions are intended to search the riches of God, His Word, creation and Truth.