I was asked to leave AMF for Apostolic Ministry

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Hahahhaha!

So true, so true!

I have heard, unsubstantiated of course, that the AMF is full of gossipers and troublemakers and that Jon Alfaro and pelathais have caused a lot of trouble over there!

Jon and I are actually free lance writers who travel around the Internet stirring up boards during the slow summer months for pay. You should have seen us on the forum at the Journal of Etymology or Quilters Quarterly. We crack me up!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by pelathais

"Interrogation?"

When have I ever "interrogated" you? What time? What date? What did I ask? Where were you at the time? Do you have any corroborating witnesses? How would you describe your frame of mind at the time? When was the last meal that you ate? What did you eat? Did you prepare it yourself, did someone else prepare it in your's or another's home, or did you eat out?

"Interrogation?" C'mon!

You asked me THREE successive questions!!!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You asked me THREE successive questions!!!

When? oops! Four.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by pelathais

When? oops! Four.

I don't know! I was so flustered! I began to perspire and hyperventilate. I looked to the left and then to right, I couldn't find a way out!!! I couldn't find a paper bag to breath into! I didn't know what to do and then, alas, my faculties not being in order, I forgot how to count!!! So it was FOUR?! FOUR questions?!!!! My goodness!!!

[192281]

HA..When I saw my name with AMF..I was like, what the heck??? I have never been there, don't even know how. One Forum is enough for me.

I have read through this thread (not sure why) guess it’s like a car wreck, you just have to look! I just hope and pray there aren’t sincere people who are seeking God out there that have stumbled upon this and think this is how all Christians act. I understand in a forum you will have disagreements and things can get a bit testy but why the name calling, it’s real sad to see.

People who are from AMF and people who are from AFF if you don't like what you see on the others forum then stop looking. If all of us on AFF are awful sinners then pray for us but dont come over here bad mouthing..Same goes for AFF, if you dont like what you see or read on AMF then why go there and bring their troubles over hear????????? It’s all confusing to me..LET IT GO!

If you are a person who is seeking after God I hope you visit some of the other threads and realize this can be a place of encouragement and love.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by 192281

HA..When I saw my name with AMF..I was like, what the heck??? I have never been there, don't even know how. One Forum is enough for me.

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The purpose of these forums is really to serve as a sounding board (or a playground) for those who may not have been able to talk about their experiences in the OP world.

Presumably, there are other ways to reach the lost. For me, this was a place for the wounded to heal and questions to be asked. In our OP churches there are too many structures in place that seek to perpetuate the existing powers and this enforces a climate of silent, unquestioning submission to whoever is running the steamroller.

Too many of our churches are NOT the place to find healing, whether you're lost or especially if you're a long time saint. Jack Yohe started the first incarnation of this forum to address that need and to provide a place where questions could be asked. AFF simply carries that forward.

Our way of doing business has hindered us from actually reaching thew lost world that surrounds us. I spent years trying to reach people and bringing them to an OP church - just to find that this was NOT the place I should be bringing lost souls. It was a corrosive and destructive environment. The place was ruled by hate and a real clinical mental pathology. I had no one I could turn to for help. No one. And, I was as faithful as an old dog by nature. Leaving was not an option I could even bear to consider.

Finally, it seemed that God Himself was so frustrated that events were brought to a head and I was kicked out. Literally. That church doesn't even exist anymore. The place that I dedicated the best years of my life to build. In a way, some of it still goes on. But everything that caused so much pain to so many people has been buried in the past.

As a warning to others I feel that I still must point out just what that heap in the ground represents. It truly was, and is "Ichabod!"

[Thumper]

Jon,

give up getting AB to answer a direct question is like nailing jello to a tree.

do something more productive like changing the oil in your lawn mower

[192281]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The purpose of these forums is really to serve as a sounding board (or a playground) for those who may not have been able to talk about their experiences in the OP world.

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I completely understand your post. I agree this place to ask questions and figure things out..That’s why I came to AFF. I know it isn’t meant to be a place to witness to others, I was just saying I hope someone doesn’t come on hear hoping for GODLY conversation and come upon THIS THREAD....
Not saying some of what was said wasnt true or even called for, it just seems we some of us lose our FILTER while typing...I highly doubt we would call each other "liars, rude, crude, sinners" to one another’s face...I just feel we should still keep our Christ Like attitudes even when we disagree..Best to turn the other cheek at times.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't know! I was so flustered! I began to perspire and hyperventilate. I looked to the left and then to right, I couldn't find a way out!!! I couldn't find a paper bag to breath into! I didn't know what to do and then, alas, my faculties not being in order, I forgot how to count!!! So it was FOUR?! FOUR questions?!!!! My goodness!!!

[SteppingStone]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The purpose of these forums is really to serve as a sounding board (or a playground) for those who may not have been able to talk about their experiences in the OP world.

Presumably, there are other ways to reach the lost. For me, this was a place for the wounded to heal and questions to be asked. In our OP churches there are too many structures in place that seek to perpetuate the existing powers and this enforces a climate of silent, unquestioning submission to whoever is running the steamroller.

Too many of our churches are NOT the place to find healing, whether you're lost or especially if you're a long time saint. Jack Yohe started the first incarnation of this forum to address that need and to provide a place where questions could be asked. AFF simply carries that forward.

Our way of doing business has hindered us from actually reaching thew lost world that surrounds us. I spent years trying to reach people and bringing them to an OP church - just to find that this was NOT the place I should be bringing lost souls. It was a corrosive and destructive environment. The place was ruled by hate and a real clinical mental pathology. I had no one I could turn to for help. No one. And, I was as faithful as an old dog by nature. Leaving was not an option I could even bear to consider.

Finally, it seemed that God Himself was so frustrated that events were brought to a head and I was kicked out. Literally. That church doesn't even exist anymore. The place that I dedicated the best years of my life to build. In a way, some of it still goes on. But everything that caused so much pain to so many people has been buried in the past.

As a warning to others I feel that I still must point out just what that heap in the ground represents. It truly was, and is "Ichabod!"

I was beginning to suspect this was the case. I enjoy the fellowship and bouncing off ideas/scriptures/interpretations off the members here..