Ministries for women porn addicts

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You don't know what TS thinks until he types what he thinks.

I think we all know how far we can take something like that. If I thought of Brad Pitt when I'm intimate with my husband, I'd have to be stupid to think there is nothing wrong with that.

Sister that would be the same thing as what Jesus spoke about in Mat 5:28.
To think you were with any other man while being with your husband is spiritual adultry. Fantasy starts in the mind, but sooner than later oppurtunity makes a way for the fantasy to become physical fact.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

If I find myself doing something like that, I need to ask God to help me stop doing it. I think you would have to train your thoughts over and over until you stopped.

If someone was doing something like that all they needed to do was stop.
Asking God to help us to stop, is like asking God to do something against our will. The answer from God would be...to just stop it. Being with a spouse while thoughts are on others is due to being not in love with the one your with. If John doesn't love Mary, John is going to let his mind wander. If Mary doesn't like John, then her mind is going to be on the paper back heros.

Love one another, and then you won't sin against each other.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We also cannot allow condemnation to overtake us either. We have to know that we must keep trying until we have overcome the thing. We just have to keep trying.

Children cannot pick their parents, what they get is what they get. That's too bad sometimes. Because mommy and daddys should be adult enough to at least get their act together especially for the children. Overcoming is through prayer and fasting. Dedication to God would go hand and hand to dedication to spouse and children. If a person cannot be dedicated to the person[s] he or she can see, how can they say they are dedicated to the God they cannot see?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[MissBrattified]

Being pure in mind and body doesn't require us to be prudish. It isn't prudish to stay focused on one person--my spouse--during sex. What's sexier than that? How annoying and hurtful is it to wonder if your spouse is pretending you're Pamela Anderson? Good grief.

Bring your thoughts into captivity, and if you mess up--repent. Grace isn't there as an excuse to sin and continue to lack self-control; it's just there to catch you when you fall in spite of your best efforts.

I Corinthians 10:13 comes into play here.

I'm not particularly bothered by the idea that some people struggle with keeping their thoughts pure because of things they've been exposed to. Okay. God can help them overcome that (if they put in the effort). What I DO take issue with is making room for the flesh to rule because you think it's too hard to fight it. "I give up--it's just gonna happen every time, sorry--so I guess God will have to just forgive me when it happens."

I think people can be more in control of themselves than that. We aren't beasts with uncontrollable urges and instincts. God wouldn't expect us to exercise self-control if it were impossible.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister that would be the same thing as what Jesus spoke about in Mat 5:28.
To think you were with any other man while being with your husband is spiritual adultery. Fantasy starts in the mind, but sooner than later opportunity makes a way for the fantasy to become physical fact.

Agree!

If someone was doing something like that all they needed to do was stop.
Asking God to help us to stop, is like asking God to do something against our will. The answer from God would be...to just stop it. Being with a spouse while thoughts are on others is due to being not in love with the one your with. If John doesn't love Mary, John is going to let his mind wander. If Mary doesn't like John, then her mind is going to be on the paper back heros.

Love one another, and then you won't sin against each other.

I would have to agree. If you truly loved your spouse like you were supposed to, you wouldn't sin against them.

Children cannot pick their parents, what they get is what they get. That's too bad sometimes. Because mommy and daddys should be adult enough to at least get their act together especially for the children. Overcoming is through prayer and fasting. Dedication to God would go hand and hand to dedication to spouse and children. If a person cannot be dedicated to the person[s] he or she can see, how can they say they are dedicated to the God they cannot see?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Agree! I also agree that overcoming is through prayer and fasting.

I think we've probably said enough on this thread. Thank you for your post Bro. Benincasa.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Being pure in mind and body doesn't require us to be prudish. It isn't prudish to stay focused on one person--my spouse--during sex. What's sexier than that? How annoying and hurtful is it to wonder if your spouse is pretending you're Pamela Anderson? Good grief.

Bring your thoughts into captivity, and if you mess up--repent. Grace isn't there as an excuse to sin and continue to lack self-control; it's just there to catch you when you fall in spite of your best efforts.

I Corinthians 10:13 comes into play here.

I'm not particularly bothered by the idea that some people struggle with keeping their thoughts pure because of things they've been exposed to. Okay. God can help them overcome that (if they put in the effort). What I DO take issue with is making room for the flesh to rule because you think it's too hard to fight it. "I give up--it's just gonna happen every time, sorry--so I guess God will have to just forgive me when it happens."

I think people can be more in control of themselves than that. We aren't beasts with uncontrollable urges and instincts. God wouldn't expect us to exercise self-control if it were impossible.

[Jeffrey]

I love how being righteous for some is just a matter of the will. Like a New Year's Resolution.

All the wet blankets are coming out

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister that would be the same thing as what Jesus spoke about in Mat 5:28.
To think you were with any other man while being with your husband is spiritual adultry. Fantasy starts in the mind, but sooner than later oppurtunity makes a way for the fantasy to become physical fact.

Are you arguing that a married couple role playing is sinful and immoral? Just wanted to be clear.


If someone was doing something like that all they needed to do was stop.
Asking God to help us to stop, is like asking God to do something against our will. The answer from God would be...to just stop it. Being with a spouse while thoughts are on others is due to being not in love with the one your with. If John doesn't love Mary, John is going to let his mind wander. If Mary doesn't like John, then her mind is going to be on the paper back heros.

The good ol' will. Doh! Jesus didn't even have to die. We could "will" our way to righteousness.
Love one another, and then you won't sin against each other.



Children cannot pick their parents, what they get is what they get. That's too bad sometimes. Because mommy and daddys should be adult enough to at least get their act together especially for the children. Overcoming is through prayer and fasting. Dedication to God would go hand and hand to dedication to spouse and children. If a person cannot be dedicated to the person[s] he or she can see, how can they say they are dedicated to the God they cannot see?
What is the topic again?
In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Wow. Spiritual bootcamp in the EB household.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Being pure in mind and body doesn't require us to be prudish. It isn't prudish to stay focused on one person--my spouse--during sex. What's sexier than that? How annoying and hurtful is it to wonder if your spouse is pretending you're Pamela Anderson? Good grief.

Bring your thoughts into captivity, and if you mess up--repent. Grace isn't there as an excuse to sin and continue to lack self-control; it's just there to catch you when you fall in spite of your best efforts.

I Corinthians 10:13 comes into play here.

I'm not particularly bothered by the idea that some people struggle with keeping their thoughts pure because of things they've been exposed to. Okay. God can help them overcome that (if they put in the effort). What I DO take issue with is making room for the flesh to rule because you think it's too hard to fight it. "I give up--it's just gonna happen every time, sorry--so I guess God will have to just forgive me when it happens."

I think people can be more in control of themselves than that. We aren't beasts with uncontrollable urges and instincts. God wouldn't expect us to exercise self-control if it were impossible.

A more accurate interpretation of 2 Cor 10:

The world is unprincipled. It's dog-eat-dog out there! The world doesn't fight fair. But we don't live or fight our battles that way—never have and never will. The tools of our trade aren't for marketing or manipulation, but they are for demolishing that entire massively corrupt culture. We use our powerful God-tools for smashing warped philosophies, tearing down barriers erected against the truth of God, fitting every loose thought and emotion and impulse into the structure of life shaped by Christ. Our tools are ready at hand for clearing the ground of every obstruction and building lives of obedience into maturity.

Not exactly about sexual intimacy.

Good points with 1 Cor 10 and your Pauline language of "Should we continue in sin that grace may abound?" rhetoric. That was good.

So, to be clear, you believe it is literally adultery if a man or woman have a thought of another person, while having intimacy with their spouse, and while faithfully committed to that relationship?

To be clear, others on here are still arguing about role playing. This topic (uncontrolled fantasies of other partners) obviously is something separate.

[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Excellent post. That's why Paul recommended marriage instead of being "inflamed with lust." (per Strong's) If a man can't remain pure while single, he needs to marry rather than "burn."

In marriage, I completely disagree with the idea that a man or woman should gratify themselves if the spouse isn't available or willing. Science shows that while men have a higher sex drive in their younger years, it's common for women to have a higher sex drive when she's in her 30's. So either their sex drives will even out, or the woman's can actually be greater than her husband's, reversing the original problem.

Men and women should "defraud not" their spouses to prevent sexual sin. That means if my husband wants sex more than I do, I do my best to satisfy his needs. If there comes a point where our situations are reversed, he should do his best to satisfy my needs. In a marriage you work together to make sure both people are satisfied. I think it's fairly obvious how that's the most rewarding method.

I love how Dr. Laura Schlessinger responds to women who call in to her show complaining about being too tired or uninterested in sex. She basically responds with total disbelief, and recommends they try sex as a relaxation method. LOL!!!!! It sounds so simple, but really--why all the objections to sex on a regular basis? That should be an enjoyable part of marriage, and it seems like so many women dread it. If a man is married to a woman who doesn't like sex, then I feel bad for him, BUT he still has an obligation to maintain sexual purity.

Back to the original point of the thread--I am so cautious about what the kids access on the internet, because pornography is a terrible problem. I would be devastated if one of my children were to become addicted to porn--because it can distort their view of sexuality for the rest of their lives! How sad for a 17 year old girl to be addicted to pornography. I like these comments by MD on the topic of avoiding sexual sin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyTN8...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bel7HxYW5T4

Thank you for these. He makes some excellent points.

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Agree!



I would have to agree. If you truly loved your spouse like you were supposed to, you wouldn't sin against them.

So our struggle with sin is just a matter of not loving enough?

Agree! I also agree that overcoming is through prayer and fasting.
Of course. Get out the lash and whips (not for that silly... to punish your flesh into subjection of course!)

I think we've probably said enough on this thread. Thank you for your post Bro. Benincasa.

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[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I think there's a difference between what images randomly pop into your head and what ideas you allow yourself to focus on. It's not wrong to see a beautiful woman, notice that she's beautiful, and even have an instantaneous [involuntary] sexual response. However, if you allow yourself to continue that feeling unchecked by the boundaries of morality put in place by the laws of God, then you are going down the path of lust, fornication and/or adultery.

II Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;