Gay Pastor's(xupc)recent Letter to the UPCI ! ! !

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Oh boy....

I talked about it here...

http://www.amazon.com/Pure-As-He-Str...7709873&sr=8-1

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Originally Posted by brad2723

Then, once again, if God punishes using such things as blindness does that mean blindness is not fine? Does that make blindness a sin? Following your argument you would have to agree that being blind is sinful simply because God has used as a form of punishment in the past. I would argue that your reasoning is beyond faulty.

Blindness is not God's will. Homosexuality is not God's will. One is a sin and one is not. Both are not God's will. Let's not be unreasonable.

Originally Posted by mfblume

Blindness is not God's will. Homosexuality is not God's will. One is a sin and one is not. Both are not God's will. Let's not be unreasonable.

Unreasonable is thinking that Gods will won't be done. If God didnt want them blind, then they would not be blind!

Eph 1:11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,

Job 42:2 “I know that You can do everything,
And that no purpose of Yours can be withheld from You.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by brad2723

You do realize you did not cut and paste the entire page, right? Did you stop short of the 1:100 statistic on purpose or on accident?

I pasted the entire stat quote. Pasting the entire page wasn't necessary.

The stat is in there, but not referring to what you said it was referring to. Read the quote. The 1:100 stat is near the bottom.

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

No, it's in there, but not referring to what you said it was referring to. Read the quote. The 1:100 stat is near the bottom.

I apologize, I did not see that you had it listed. However, my point still stands as correct. 1:100 births the childs chromosomal sex does not match it's genitalia.

I'm not sure I see where my stats were inaccurately quoted. My point was that genitalia and chromosomal sex do not always line up according to God's original creation. Whether the stat is 1:100 or 1:10000 doesn't change my point (though the 1:100 stat is accurate).

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by brad2723

I'm not sure I see where my stats were inaccurately quoted. My point was that genitalia and chromosomal sex do not always line up according to God's original creation. Whether the stat is 1:100 or 1:10000 doesn't change my point (though the 1:100 stat is accurate).

You mean this is right even though the proof you presented is flawed.

Why?

Proof presented as wrong does not make your stat right?

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Mankind was NOT created a-sexual, as some of God's creatures were. God's created sexual design for humans is clearly seen in their anatomy. This is not rocket science. I am not going to get into a part "A" fits part "B" discussion here, but it does not take someone with a special understanding to figure this out. This is an argument from design and cannot be ignored.

God in His infinite wisdom did things the way He did for a reason. His reason! All the explaining in the world cannot change God's created design...all the excuses in the world will not change God's created design.

It is the way He made them in the beginning...it is the way they remain. Therefore, any other way IS unnatural and by the very nature of the word is perverted.

Excuses may not change God's created design but nature has. Once again I ask the question that everyone is avoiding. Who is the hermaphrodite biblically allowed to be in a relationship with? Hermaphroditism is not an excuse; it is an anatomical deviation from God's original creation or, as ManOfWord stated, an anatomic deviation from "A's" and "B's" of God's initial design.

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

You mean this is right even though the proof you presented is flawed.

Why?

Proof presented as wrong does not make your stat right?

I'm not sure I follow. 1:100 people's genitals deviate from the norm for their chromosomal sex. Again, regardless of what the actually number is, only a 0:0 would disprove my point.

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Originally Posted by JerichoExp

Unreasonable is thinking that Gods will won't be done. If God didnt want them blind, then they would not be blind!

haha, that is not what I meant by God's will. I should have said "being right with God while in such a state". I meant that being in a certain state, and due to that position, one is not right with God. Of course, Gods will is always done.

The reason I said "WILL" is due to the reasoning that when one is blinded by God, God put them in a state that is not His best for them. Punishment is not what God wills for His people who are righteous and not worthy of punishment. In other words, when I say it is "not God's will", I mean that He does not will for those whom He blesses to be blinded by Him. God did not create man to be blinded. He did not create man to be homosexual. There is something that puts them out of His will in regards to the state He wills for man to be in righteous standing, although He wills for them to be blinded as a form of punishment.

His ultimate will is man be unpunished. So He wills that man not be homosexual.