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[Sam]

Originally Posted by CC1

Not to be confused with the "Jetsons".

but is a jet setter, isn't he?

[RachelRose]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Do You Steal Sermons?

Many have done it. You listen to a preacher say something catchy and repeat it. Perhaps you have heard a great sermon and re-preached it. Whatever the case, presenting other’s work as your own is stealing and false representation. Whenever, we front like the work of another is ours we are stealing!

When is it Stealing?
Yes I know, we all read commentaries or at least we should, and we all listen to sermons or at least we should, but there is a difference between being inspired through preparation and down right perpetrating.

But I must ask the important question: When is it no longer preaching but plagerism and piracy? and further, How can we hold ourselves accountable?

It’s a Shame
I mean it’s a shame! To do this in the hallowed halls of academia will result in dismissal, the same holds true in any other field. It’s fraud! Yet we tolerate it in the church and the pulpit of all places! How can we expect our parishioners to be just in their dealings when we ourselves are notorious in ours?

We need some integrity. It is wrong to steal. It is wrong to lie, and pretending as if you’ve wrote something you didn’t is a huge lie! Especially when we consider the fact that we’re getting paid.

Pimping in the Pulpit
The classic definition of pimping is to get paid from the toil of another, so not only are we stealing (plagiarism/piracy) but we’re also pimping! Especially in this multi-media world, where we can broadcast another’s ideas via internet, TV, CD, and DVD, and make money off of them! I’ve heard of preachers doing revivals and getting paid well. However, some of these same preachers were preaching the sermons of other preachers. This is just down right wrong.

Just Stop It!!
I must say to those preachers who are reading this that specialize in Sat. night specials and surf the net, or Libronix, and/or WordSearch to cut and paste together sermons, or those brothers and sisters who constantly re-incarnate what they’ve heard a televangelist say and do. I must say to those preachers in my most earnest voice, “Stop It!”

God will speak and in those moments when He is silent do as Renita Weems suggests and live in the meantime, the span of time between the last time and the next time. Preach in the meantime, testify of God’s goodness even in His seeming silence. Walk by faith. This silence is also a part of the journey. Take heart nobody hears the voice of God always and at all times, if they did they wouldn’t need to have faith! So take heart and be encouraged, but do not I mean do not, take the work of others and pretend that it is your own.

Sit in your own Saddle
Secondly, consider sitting in your own saddle. God gifts us all differently. Some of us just don’t have the same outlook. Rather than stealing the fruits of another’s outlook on the text consider your own. For instance, I have a friend in New Haven, CT., nobody preaches like him! He shouted me in front of all the sisters I was trying to impress at the National Baptist Convention Summer Congress. All of this while I was on stage, and in my convention suit (yall know how we are when we swear we clean and trying to be cool!)

I mean he KILLED me, killed me dead! I have two other friends who preached in the same convention at a late night service and another who preached there during the day. They can all rip a text apart and then put it back together again. They are masters, while I am a novice. Yet, I still will not steal their stuff, (even though we exchange information, and when I borrow I cite them), because I haven’t lived life in their shoes. So I don’t see things as they do! We come from different vantage points and it’d be a disservice to think that God would have us to see and say the same things. If this were the case He would’ve never called me! I have nothing on them, I ain’t even as nice as them! Instead, I recognize that God has seen fit to navigate me through some tumultuous times and events all to shape my outlook on the biblical narrative. With this being said I have no need to steal, their expressions of God’s navigational prowess, because I have my own!

And so do you, I implore and encourage you to discover how GPS has benefited you in life, no not the GPS that accompanies Cadillacs and other fine coupes, I mean the GPS that comes in the finest machinery known to humanity….humanity itself. And this GPS is God’s piloting system. Activate it through prayer, fasting, and meditation, ask God to open your eyes, minds, and hearts. And then finally, just as you want pour good wine or champagne, or good cognac, or fresh water, or even cold Kool-Aide into a dirty container, neither will God speak to us when we sit cemented and centered in sinful activities, so I suggest that we try to live right, so that God will want to speak to us, through new and exciting means with new and exciting messages!

Make Any Sermon You Use Your Own
When inspired by a sermon, use it, but make it your own, and most importantly tell the truth if you got it from someone cite them, nothing makes you look smarter than citing some information!

Remember, knowing it all doesn’t really make you smart because no one knows it all! But the truly smart are smart not because they know it all, but because they know where to go to get the answers!
As always your questions, comments, concerns, critiques, conversation and contention is much warranted and welcomed.

(SOURCE UNCITED hehe)

What if you say WHO gave the sermon first?
Or if the sermon is the thoughts of God how could it be stealing?
What percent of reusing someone else's sermon do you have to be at before it is stealing?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

What if you say WHO gave the sermon first?
Or if the sermon is the thoughts of God how could it be stealing?
What percent of reusing someone else's sermon do you have to be at before it is stealing?

When you take a sermon, and preach it word for word, it's not something God gave YOU.

JF preaches 'A Miracle Looking For A Vessel' almost like he was a JA clone...it's stealing.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Barb

When you take a sermon, and preach it word for word, it's not something God gave YOU.

JF preaches 'A Miracle Looking For A Vessel' almost like he was a JA clone...it's stealing.

I would have never thought of it like that. I would think that God would give the church messages to be shared with the body. Preachers don't have a copyright on the messages that they received freely from God.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I would have never thought of it like that. I would think that God would give the church messages to be shared with the body. Preachers don't have a copyright on the messages that they received freely from God.

Amen.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Barb

When you take a sermon, and preach it word for word, it's not something God gave YOU.

JF preaches 'A Miracle Looking For A Vessel' almost like he was a JA clone...it's stealing.

Who stole from who?

[Esaias]

Who's JF?

EDIT: doh! Never mind lol

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Amanah

I would have never thought of it like that. I would think that God would give the church messages to be shared with the body. Preachers don't have a copyright on the messages that they received freely from God.

And I would agree, to a point. No one has a copyright on the Word of God, however, as a layperson, it just seems to me when it is verbatim from the next guy, to me it is suspect.

Just my opinion of it...

Originally Posted by houston

Who stole from who?

Bro. JA preached the sermon I mentioned in the early 90s at BOTT...I have the video.

[houston]

There is nothing new under the sun.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by houston

There is nothing new under the sun.

So, so true. But one ought to be able to take your good thought, and run with it, not mimic it.

That's just my opinion...doesn't mean I'm right.