SKorean Navy Ship Sunk by N. Koreans?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by pelathais

We weren't prepared at all back then. Entire rifle companies were sent to confront the N. Korean invasion and were lost - mowed down due to the fact that they were facing off with Communist tanks and artillery with just their M1 carbines.

When the territory was retaken later, the roads were found lined in places with the bodies of American soldiers who had obviously been taken prisoner. Their arms were tied behind their backs with barbed wire and they were all either shot in the head or bludgeoned to death to save the bullet.

When MacArthur executed the Inchon landing and took Seoul he outflanked the entire N. Korean army and sent them running back to the north. American forces drove them all the way across the Yalu River and into China and were ready to start mopping up. Then, one million Chinese "volunteers" crossed the border and drove the beleaguered Americans back to appropriately the exact line that exists today.

We weren't ready then. Not even close. We were lucky to have MacArthur and his amphibious skill to turn the tide. Then we had to fire him of course because he wanted to nuke the Chinese "volunteers" in order to save American lives.

We had nuclear weapons then. The Chinese and N Koreans had none. Now the Chinese have hundreds of them and the Koreans are beginning to stockpile.

The mindset is also very different. Then many Americans loved their country and were ready and willing to die for it. A lot has changed since then. Yes we are fighting two wars right now but neither of them together are causing near as many casualties as Korea.

Our wars now will look small compared to a war like we are discussing here. I say leave Iraq and Afghanistan. All we are doing there is propping up Islamic antichrist governments. Not one more American should die for them.

Strategically speaking these wars will have given us training and insight for bigger wars but we need as a nation to regroup and begin to rethink our future with N.Korea, China, and Russia.

However spiritually my thinking is that YHWH may well use them as his battle axe in judgment against America. We shall see.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have read that the S Koreans are privately saying they don't think it was N. Korea. More likely some kind of accident. I sure hope so! That would be a huge provocation if N. Korea did do it.

Would this have been considered much of a provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858

What about the attempted assassination of your president that killed 4 members of the cabinet? http://www.britannica.com/facts/10/4...g-four-members

Or the attempted assassination of your President that left him wounded and his wife dead? http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v1106234E3tfPYas

Nothing's gonna happen. It's just the North showing their displeasure over the recent U.S/South Korean joint military exercises - if it wasn't really an accident after all.

My guess is that they hit an old mine that may have been deliberately set "adrift" by the North. The "flock of birds" canard is just cover so that South Korean ultra-nationalists don't have an excuse to get too riled up.

When faced off in a "fair" shoot out, the South usually has out shot the North. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Yeonpyeong

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We had nuclear weapons then. The Chinese and N Koreans had none. Now the Chinese have hundreds of them and the Koreans are beginning to stockpile.

The mindset is also very different. Then many Americans loved their country and were ready and willing to die for it. A lot has changed since then. Yes we are fighting two wars right now but neither of them together are causing near as many casualties as Korea.

Our wars now will look small compared to a war like we are discussing here. I say leave Iraq and Afghanistan. All we are doing there is propping up Islamic antichrist governments. Not one more American should die for them.

Before we got to Afghanistan there were dozens of bases used for the arming and training of Muslim terrorists to attack America. The attacks on 9/11/2001 were launched from those bases. We had to take that safe haven away from the terrorists.

The fact that safe havens remain in the adjacent "Tribal Territories" of Pakistan represents a further problem.

Iraq is a slightly different matter. Iran is the real problem. They have funded and have built up three proxy armies in the region that are actively fighting against Western targets while also brow beating the local populations into accepting militant fundamentalism that will only breed more jihadis.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Strategically speaking these wars will have given us training and insight for bigger wars but we need as a nation to regroup and begin to rethink our future with N.Korea, China, and Russia.

However spiritually my thinking is that YHWH may well use them as his battle axe in judgment against America. We shall see.

Strategically, we had nukes in 1950. Tactically however, we didn't have any as evidenced by MacArthur's failed attempt to deploy and use them. Ticky-tack point perhaps... but if you aren't really going to use them what's the point in saying you've got them? When the other guy calls your bluff - your boys are left standing out in the field without their most powerful weapons available.

(I'm not advocating nuclear war here. I'm just questioning the lines of reasoning behind saying America even has any tactical nuclear deterrent).

Also, on the battlefield we were grossly unprepared in 1950. We'd just spent the previous 5 years working very hard to disarm and get back to a "peace time" economy. American forces were cut to ribbons as they fell back on Pusan.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by Ron

Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister.

(quotes from the articles are below each link)

MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: From the PRESIDIUM ...to the PRESIDIO

The purpose of this article is to show you exactly who Mikhail Gorbachev is, and examine the enormous role he played in promoting the Socialist Globalist agenda in the West. In this process, you will see that the New World Order, and specifically, the Biblical Antichrist system is well on its way to subduing the earth.


Is the Devil in the New World Order?
Most people are not aware of the Luciferic connection.

In every presidential administration of this century, a substantial, if not majority of all members were linked to Luciferian inspired organizations. Most people seemingly do not know that politics and religion today have been carefully choreographed for centuries with an ultimate goal of world dominion in the mind of Satan and his schemers.


The West's Fatal Embrace of Communism

The US mass media (and most corporations) are controlled by the central banking cartel, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. These are the same people who sponsored Communism.

The guiding principle behind world events is their plan to translate their monopoly over government credit into a world monopoly of power, business, culture and religion.

These bankers use a Hegelian dialectic to achieve their end. They created both Capitalism and Communism as thesis and antithesis. Their aim is a synthesis, combining the political and cultural tyranny of Communism with the appearance of Capitalist free markets.

In 1953, Ford Foundation President, H. Rowan Gaither told Congressional Investigator Norman Dodd that his instructions were to use "our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."


Central Bankers Seek Totalitarian Power

The "War on Terror" is a ruse by central bankers to control every aspect of your life.

Reviewing "The Red Symphony" recently, I was shocked to read an insider's statement that the bankers are not content with infinite wealth, but want unlimited power.

"The Red Symphony" is a 1938 Stalinist Secret Police (NKVD) interrogation of Christian Rakovsky, a Soviet ambassador who was a close associate of Leon Trotsky, Rothschild's agent.

I introduced this explosive 50-page document to my readers two years ago. It strips the veil from modern history and explains the real meaning of Revolution, Communism, Freemasonry and War. It was not intended to become public knowledge. The translator, a Dr. J. Landowsky, made an unauthorized copy.

[oletime]

I dont think either incident was manufactured ,from what i read on the got incident, it was the result of a nervous sailor looking at radar spotting a thunderstorm and radioing that they were under air attack.Thus the bombing began.PS I was glad nixon ended the draft when he did, i was just graduating

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I believe two hard line Communist nations would unite quickly. China declared war on us in 1950 because we got to close to their territory in combat operations. At least thats what they said then.

North Korea is more of a dictatoryship/theocracy. Their glorious leader is considered "god" to many

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BroGary

Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister. ...

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

And Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

[BroGary]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

No offense taken bro, I expect some doubters :-)

Anyhow, check out the articles on those links, this is valid info, the globalists plan things out well in advance and plans they made long ago have been being followed as research will show.