Crownover's Holiness PPT: Admits to Traditions

[RandyWayne]

I don't necessarily agree with the "sin" part in regards to volume, but just think there is MORE of a point then trying to come up with a certain beats and saying that THEY are worldly (again, usually anything that is not Southern gospel).

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree, but I don't like seeing it parsed into a presentation on "holiness." It's unwise to eat Snickers bars on a regular basis, but who can resist a Nougatalicious?????? It's just another crazy thing to be legalistic about.

That's true, but I'm not sure that this preacher was trying to be legalistic about it. But I didn't watch the powerpoint, either.

[Truthseeker]

Alot of carnal music in churches.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Alot of carnal music in churches.

How do you define carnal music? Most of the music that I hear in churches is glorifying God in some way.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

How do you define carnal music? Most of the music that I hear in churches is glorifying God in some way.

Whatever is not gangsta rap or christian rock!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by DAII

Unwhole music ... can be identified by VOLUME???


Ray are you for real????

Daniel are you for real? It din't say the music was unwholesome based on volume, he was saying the same principle that teaches smoking is wrong should be used to say music or sermons that are so loud they cause physical damage are unwholesome.

That doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Daniel are you for real? It din't say the music was unwholesome based on volume, he was saying the same principle that teaches smoking is wrong should be used to say music or sermons that are so loud they cause physical damage are unwholesome.

That doesn't seem like a stretch to me.

Any music can be played at a damaging volume ... you are not suggesting Beethoven or a hymn played at a ear damaging decibel is necessarily "unwholesome" or that this was the spirit of the Holiness article resolution in 1954 are you?

His intents was to expound on the the meaning of the various clauses of the Holiness Article ... was it not?

[TroubleMaker]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I like loud music. But there's no denying the scientific fact that prolonged listening to music that is too loud is damaging to your hearing. That doesn't make it sinful, but it does make it unwise.

Prolonged ditch-digging is bad on the back but what're ya gonna do.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by TroubleMaker

Prolonged ditch-digging is bad on the back but what're ya gonna do.

I'm not going to do prolonged ditch-digging.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by DAII

Any music can be played at a damaging volume ... you are not suggesting Beethoven or a hymn played at a ear damaging decibel is necessarily "unwholesome" or that this was the spirit of the Holiness article resolution in 1954 are you?

His intents was to expound on the the meaning of the various clauses of the Holiness Article ... was it not?

Any music played at a damaging level would be contrary to holiness principles, I believe that is the context. The very next slide points out it is not the "kind" of music that is the issue. He also points to the content of the music as what makes it unwholesome.

Perhaps it is more about true holiness rather than just a list of rules?