Owning gun??

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Eliseus

The Second Amendment is not a grant of any right or priviledge. Rather, it is a RESTRICTION of governmental power. It restricts the government from infringing on the [already pre-existing, inalienable God-given] right to both keep (own) and BEAR arms (weapons).

The purpose of the Second Amendment was to place within the federal Constitution a prohibition on the government's ability to impede the people's right to be armed in the event of insurrection or invasion.

On April 19th, 1775, government law enforcement went to Concord to seize the militia stockpile of weapons. This was the time of Paul Revere's famous "the British are coming" ride. At Lexington Green, on April 19th, civilian militiamen opened fire on government troops who had come to disarm the people.

As a result, April 19th has for a long time been known as Patriot's Day.

Those who argue the Second Amendment protects the rights of people to engage in "sport shooting" or hunting are completely ignorant of the real purpose of "keeping and bearing arms". The Second Amendment makes no mention of hunting or sport shooting.

It says "a well regulated militia being necesary to the security of a free state..." which means that a well supplied armed citizenry is necessary to have a free country.

The founding fathers placed within the core government charter of our country the truth that an armed civilian population is NECESSARY to have a free country.

Freedom in America is not guaranteed by the existence of the US military, the threat of massive military retaliation against foreign attackers, or any such thing. Rather, FREEDOM is guaranteed (according to the Constitution) by the existence of a well equipped armed civilian population.

"Well regulated" does not mean "strangled by governmental regulations and ordinances", but means equipped. The term regulated referred to logistics and supply.

Furthermore, current federal laws regarding firearms ownership are contrary to the original intent, not to mention the plain letter, of the Constitution.

The recent Federal Appeals case in Parker vs DC proved this, when it was declared that the types of arms which are guaranteed to the people are the common military weapons of the day suitable to an individual soldier - which means individual, soldier-operated and soldier carried weapons. Which in turn means any weapon a single soldier can be outfitted with is a suitable milita weapon.

The "hunting or sporting purposes" requirement placed on import and manufacturing (as well as the 1968 ban on manufacturing of full automatic weapons) is thus unConsitutional. The older Supreme Court "Miller" case also clearly implies this.

Furthermore, the militia was not and is not the NAtional Guard. The Supreme Court as well as most State constitutions maintain that the militia is "all able bodied males between the ages of 17 and 45 capable of bearing arms" at least (this is the Federal Militia law). Texas, for example, extends that to age 65 I believe, and most legal authorities recognise the application of milita law to women as well as men. Property owning requirements for membership in the state or federal militia have been dropped, as far as I know.

In other words, if you are an able bodied adult between 18 and 45, you are in the militia already.

Well said!!!!


I "pity the foo'" who would try to break into your home!!!!

[Michael The Disciple]

There certainly must be a balance. The scriptures say:

32: But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
33: Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
34: For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

Yes I have shot thousands of recreational rounds over the years. Yes in certain circumstances I would probably shoot the bad guy. If I knew the guy trying to break in was not going to hurt my family I would probably offer him something. Food, drink, perhaps money. I would feel better in my walk with Christ in so doing than to shoot him.

If they intend to hurt my wife then I go to THIS.

18: If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Rom. 12:18

If it is possible I will not shoot.

However keep in mind we all need to be ready to die for the name of Jesus.

[Nina]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

However keep in mind we all need to be ready to die for the name of Jesus.

Nate Saint (End of the Spear) determined to remain unarmed in a savage land because He knew he was ready for judgement, but refused to kill someone who wasn't ready to meet Jesus

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Well said!!!!


I "pity the foo'" who would try to break into your home!!!!

I will have to find the ammendment; but I heard here in Texas you can now shoot to defend property outside of your home and land.

[RevDWW]

I believe firmly in gun control.................


























cause without control how can you hit what your shoot'n at?
Of course my idea of gun control is shooting with both hands.


Here's real question: What is more valuable then human life? Take the money I can make more, take the car I can get another one, take my stuff there's plenty more where that came from, but DO NOT mess with my wife or children. To try and do harm to my family is a death warrant for the prepetrator. I will give one warning. I will not shoot to scare off. I will not shoot to wound. I will shoot to put them down. God expects me to care for my family and to defend it. Now if I'm prayed up and I call on Jesus to turn away the criminal and He does then we are both better off. If the criminal refuses to hear the voice of the Lord, then he might be able to hear it if he's closer to the throne.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I will have to find the article ; but I heard there is a Bill some are trying pass here in Texas. To allow gun owners to shoot and defend property outside of your home and land.

Updated

[ManOfWord]

If more poeple carried guns, there would be less of a need for them!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

If more poeple carried guns, there would be less of a need for them!

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I wouldn't know anything much about guns...as a whole they are dangerous but can be used for protection, hunting and things like that.
Brother Alvear and I do not own a gun...only an angel.

You own an angel?

Originally Posted by RevDWW

I believe firmly in gun control.................

cause without control how can you hit what your shoot'n at?
Of course my idea of gun control is shooting with both hands.


Here's real question: What is more valuable then human life? Take the money I can make more, take the car I can get another one, take my stuff there's plenty more where that came from, but DO NOT mess with my wife or children. To try and do harm to my family is a death warrant for the prepetrator. I will give one warning. I will not shoot to scare off. I will not shoot to wound. I will shoot to put them down. God expects me to care for my family and to defend it. Now if I'm prayed up and I call on Jesus to turn away the criminal and He does then we are both better off. If the criminal refuses to hear the voice of the Lord, then he might be able to hear it if he's closer to the throne.

LOL...

...and you will do your part to see that he gets there.