Feast of trumpets

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

That is the point I am making I am not saying they are a have to to be saved. As for that matter our salvation is not base on works but faith in the Gospel of Christ. But if you can see the direction I am heading with house churches there is a need to come together on occasion for group fellowship. This is what I see God doing with Isreal. My understanding is they did not have regular church services or meetings as we do today. Each home was a church for a better word. yet they needed to whole nation just as we need the whole body to draw strength, this is what I see God doing with the feasts days. They were times when all came together to worship at one place several times a year. We do this every Sunday and many say if we don't attend it is sin. I don't beleive this any more but it is still benificial to worship as a larger group. Even Paul stated to not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.

As a get-together it would indeed be a blessing. But in Israel's time of OT law, it was a demand. In fact, they were cut off if they did not keep the three main feasts, I think it was.

I still hesitate to use the word NEED with the feasts, though, since it puts a "have to" concept in them. And so technically there is no NEED for the feasts, even to get together. We NEED to get together, but the feasts do not have to be that means. Anyway, aside from that, amen.

See the problem I see is after two or three generations every movement becomes a religion. And this is not where God was directon teh kingdom of God. When we become a religion we raise men/women into the position that God belongs. Just as Isreal did when they wanted a king. We would rather do as Isreal said to Moses, we don't want to hear God you tell us and we will obey. But God did not robe himself in flesh and give himself on the cross just so we could go back to the old way. We are to come to God on a personal realm.
The word of God is a personal guide book to the individual not given to pastors to interperit and then give to the layity.
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

So long as we walk after the Spirit, we will be free of becoming a "religion". I think the concept of looking at movements failing is rooted in the cause of beginning "movements" in the first place. I do not like the concept of movements. The Kingdom of God is a biological entity of believers despite any movements some of them might be in. And these movements always seem to begin with personal agendas to a degree, anyway. Or else the fully sincere founders who had no agendas have not seen others come along to keep things going without a personal agenda. Whatever the case, this movement concept should stop.

You're right! We need a personal relationship concept instilled in all the saints. Just today I told our congregation that they should not accept anything I or any other preacher says without seeing it themselves in the Bible.

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And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.

Amen. The first post quoted this verse. What did you have in mind?

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Trouvere's post reminded me of a note. SABBATH is associated in all the feasts. REST. And the one thing the New Testament emphasized in Hebrews was entrance into the REST. I think this refers to the finished work of Christ. WE REST in all God has promised us by having FAITH to that end. And everything accomplished by Christ, from the cross onward to guiding us to all truth, is screaming out REST to us. He did the work. But we have to believe in order to come into this place, and have ALL unbelief removed.

This is spiritual maturity, really. So confident in Christ that worry is gone, and stress is gone. Nothing our houses go through can tear them off the rock. And God is able to manifest in us fully as He created us for. And trumpets signals truths and revelations for us to come into this rest after experiencing salvation of the spring and Pentecostal feasts.

[Trouvere]

Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
ev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.

Lev 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

whew
the first day of the month was a memorial, a blowing of trumpets.
the ninth day starting at even to even on the tenth day.
the tenth day being a fast day, a day of atonement.
The fifteenth day being the beginning of seven days of Tabernacles. The first day
being a sabbath and the eighth day being a sabbath.
There seemed to be a lot of sabbath rest included.

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
ev 23:27 Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.

Lev 23:39 Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

whew
the first day of the month was a memorial, a blowing of trumpets.
the ninth day starting at even to even on the tenth day.
the tenth day being a fast day, a day of atonement.
The fifteenth day being the beginning of seven days of Tabernacles. The first day
being a sabbath and the eighth day being a sabbath.
There seemed to be a lot of sabbath rest included.

Amen. And sabbath emphasizes finished work. The REST of Hebrews 4. Hebrews 4 says that although God finished the work in Genesis 2 and had a sabbath day established, and although Joshua led them into Canaan's rest, and David long later said he sought God's rest, there still remains a rest to the people of God. That means the sabbath day was not the answer. they kep sabbath day. Canaan was not the answer, they entered that. But it is a rest in the work of Christ where we rest on his promises by the unbelief removed from our lives. I really think this is pointing that way.

Paul sought to know Christ above all else, the fellowship of His suffering and power of His resurrection. Spiritual maturity. The high calling. Paul still sought it after all his great exploits. I see no greater attainment.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You're right! We need a personal relationship concept instilled in all the saints. Just today I told our congregation that they should not accept anything I or any other preacher says without seeing it themselves in the Bible.

Amen amen amen