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Old 11-10-2009, 11:05 PM
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LOL! You're acting a little bratty toward Newman. What's your deal pickle?!!
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:21 PM
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I don't see any logical double meanings given the fact you haven't established why the President would be approaching the killing of U.S. soldiers through the view of a Muslim extremist. When you make a logical case for the President being a closeted Muslim extremist, you'd give more validity to your absurd claim.
NOPE. I haven't said he is a Muslim extremist. However, I do note that he appears to:

1. Embrace America's enemies;

2. Alienate America's friends;

3. Stay out of Iran's internal affairs; BUT

4. Butt into the internal affairs of the Honduran Govt in an appearant effort to prop up a would-be dictator championed by Chavez.

Is there any group or dictator that hates America that the "President" doesn't cozy up to when given the opportunity? WHO?

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Old 11-10-2009, 11:53 PM
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LOL! You're acting a little bratty toward Newman. What's your deal pickle?!!
I dunno. I've felt a little grumpy lately...and I've agreed with Aquila and MikeInAr several times...maybe someone should take my temp?
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I dunno. I've felt a little grumpy lately...and I've agreed with Aquila and MikeInAr several times...maybe someone should take my temp?
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Remember that Sponge Bob Square Pants Thermometer?
I didn't...but I looked it up!
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:06 AM
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I didn't...but I looked it up!
Then do that and come back tomorrow!!!!
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:23 AM
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"No faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor," Obama told the crowd on a steamy Texas afternoon. "And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world and the next."

One of the things that made O the perfect canidate was his ability to say exactly what everyone wanted to hear. How is it possible?

Consider the above quote taken off a news website just as I saw it. My first reaction was typical American agreement. But then I considered what other meanings one could attach to carefully crafted words.

1. "No faith justifies these muderous and craven acts;"

To Muslim ears---> Infidels (those with no faith) justifies these murderous and craven acts;

2. "No just and loving God looks upon them with favor."

To Muslim ears----> God doesn't look upon them/infidels with favor.

3. "And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world and the next."

----> Indeed! 70 virgins.

Admittedly, I haven't seen these words in context but found myself stunned by the potential double meaning in the headlines. Coincidence?

Btw- When was the last time you heard the President of the United States bring up life after death in a public speech about an evil person? Hmm....
When one is looking for a conspiracy, they are bound to find one; all that is necessary is to take one's words out of context. It is undoubtedly easier to parse the words of the President, than to simply admit that there are no hidden messages in his speech. He [Pres. Obama] is this, he is that, he is not, etc; all theories with no evidence to substantiate any of the Obama naysayers claims against him. They love their conspiracy theories and many will hold onto them all the way to the grave. I find no fault with his speech or any of the quotes you mentioned.

"...in this world and the next": I think he was referring to the judgment that this man will receive not only by man on this earth, but when he stands before God.

By the way not one President of our nation has never "carefully crafted" the words of any speech they give. Well...there might be an exception to that....G. W. Bush "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002. Were these carefully crafted words?....Who knows? I could make up some conspiracy theories about this quote, but would that be right?

But, seriously My question to you Newman is why consider what other meanings one could attach to as you put it "carefully crafted words"? You seem to know the mind of a Muslim quite well. Shall I conclude that you are posing as a Christian on this forum?
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:43 AM
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I agree with that O is muslim. O slipped in a televised interview after he took the Oval Office and said the muslim faith was his faith. And all muslims in our country - as well as globally - consider O one of theirs. He was born into a muslim family with an atheist (or an agnostic; she certainly did not believe in God) for a mother; he went to a private muslin school, palled around with the Black Panthers who are renowned muslims (his wife adheres to the Black panther mindset and Black Panthers were his strategic bodyguards at Poll Booths), and he kissed the hand and bowed to a muslim Saudi Prince. Yes, I do believe O is a muslim doing a very bad imitation of an American. MPO. His Birth Certificate states that he was born in Kenya, which is primarily muslim in culture. His family, when interviewed states unequivocally that O is a muslim.
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When one is looking for a conspiracy, they are bound to find one; all that is necessary is to take one's words out of context. It is undoubtedly easier to parse the words of the President, than to simply admit that there are no hidden messages in his speech. He [Pres. Obama] is this, he is that, he is not, etc; all theories with no evidence to substantiate any of the Obama naysayers claims against him. They love their conspiracy theories and many will hold onto them all the way to the grave. I find no fault with his speech or any of the quotes you mentioned.

"...in this world and the next": I think he was referring to the judgment that this man will receive not only by man on this earth, but when he stands before God.

By the way not one President of our nation has never "carefully crafted" the words of any speech they give. Well...there might be an exception to that....G. W. Bush "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." --Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002. Were these carefully crafted words?....Who knows? I could make up some conspiracy theories about this quote, but would that be right?

But, seriously My question to you Newman is why consider what other meanings one could attach to as you put it "carefully crafted words"? You seem to know the mind of a Muslim quite well. Shall I conclude that you are posing as a Christian on this forum?
Very interesting point. I mean Newman did go to great extents to highlite the view of a Islamic terrorist. He admits that there's no proof that BHO is Muslim. Makes one wonder where the Muslim viewpoint comes in doesnt it....
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Very interesting point. I mean Newman did go to great extents to highlite the view of a Islamic terrorist. He admits that there's no proof that BHO is Muslim. Makes one wonder where the Muslim viewpoint comes in doesnt it....
First, Newman is a woman and second, she is one of us (Apostolic).
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