OK, you've totally lost me. You said that bill collectors are against God's law. Can you explain how?
Collection agencies are FORCING you to pay up. Pressuring youand threatening you by force in different ways. That is against the expectancy in which Jesus said to lend money. You don't go out and hire hitman to collect your money.
Collection agencies are FORCING you to pay up. Pressuring youand threatening you by force in different ways. That is against the expectancy in which Jesus said to lend money. You don't go out and hire hitman to collect your money.
Sorry, still not seeing how Jesus taught that lenders shouldn't "force" repayment. He may have, but I can't see it.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Sorry, still not seeing how Jesus taught that lenders shouldn't "force" repayment. He may have, but I can't see it.
Luk 6:34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.
Luk 6:34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.
Ah! Thanks, I forgot about those scriptures.
Can I borrow your car?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
God hates bill collectors too as it goes against his laws.
Silly statement. God doesn't hate bill collectors. A Christian principle is one of lending and not expecting repayment--sure. But there's nothing wrong with collecting on a debt, and the coinciding principle is that we should pay our bills whenever possible, and refrain from incurring debt we know we can't repay.
To be mean to someone because they owe you money--obviously that isn't Christian. God still doesn't HATE people, even when they're mean.
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--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Luk 6:34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. Luk 6:35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.
Silly statement. God doesn't hate bill collectors. A Christian principle is one of lending and not expecting repayment--sure. But there's nothing wrong with collecting on a debt, and the coinciding principle is that we should pay our bills whenever possible, and refrain from incurring debt we know we can't repay.
To be mean to someone because they owe you money--obviously that isn't Christian. God still doesn't HATE people, even when they're mean.
It's not a silly statement it is truth. He hates many professions! Does he hate prostitutes? Yes! You are identified with what you do. Does God hate liars? Yes! Does he hate the person that can be changed? No! You cannot seperate the act and the person. That is how the law works. Also you points of....
"But there's nothing wrong with collecting on a debt, and the coinciding principle"
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"is that we should pay our bills whenever possible, and refrain from incurring debt we know we can't repay."
Have nothing to do with the action of the other as each person cannot be the other. Your action as lender are actions of lending. Yes we should pay our debts and I have said that but my point is to the action of COLLECTING in the current knowledge of our own social structure. Bill collecting is a threat pretty much most of the time. The action of doing harm to another is against the very essence of Jesus words. If your expectancy is not being paid back then why would you act in a way contrary to that. Bill collections and third party debt collectors is clearly not in line with that. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is your principle action and guide whethr the 2nd part of your statement above is followed by another. Again my point had nothing to do with the obligation of the debtor but THE LENDER!
The Bible tells us to be lenders and not borrowers. I lended to others, was not paid back now I am a borrower. Gotta get some balance and stop being so giving...just bites you
Polonius: Neither a borrower or a lender be, Do not forget, stay out of debt;
Think twice, and take this good advice from me, guard that old solvency.
There's just one more thing you ought to do, to thine own self be true.
All: Neither a borrower or a lender be, Do not forget, stay out of debt;
Think twice, and take this good advice from me, guard that old solvency.
There's just one more thing you ought to do, to thine own self be true.
Just to clarify... Midah Keneged Midah.... measure for measure is biblicaly correct but God wants you to be more than just eye for an eye and tooth for tooth. Love goes beyond the correct principle equal justice.
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