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Old 07-31-2009, 10:54 AM
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He told jurors he couldn't seek medical treatment for his 11-year-old daughter Madeline — who suffered from undiagnosed diabetes — without disobeying God.

"I can't do that because Biblically, I cannot find that is the way people are healed," Neumann said.


So he read the Bible and he found no records of doctors or medical professions in there? I don't think he read it enough.

Of course, now I am trying to think of a time in the Bible where it says a doctor healed a person. Is that in there? Not that it changes anything, just trying to understand where this man is coming from.
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"Neumann testified he believed praying for the girl was needed because all healing comes from God and he never expected her to die.

"If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God," Neumann said. "I am not believing what he said he would do."

Madeline died March 23, 2008, of diabetes on the floor of the family's rural Weston home as people surrounded her and prayed.

Her father was the last person to testify in his trial.

Neumann, who once studied to be a Pentecostal minister, preached to the jury about his faith in God's healing powers and cried out like he was talking to the Lord. He said he has been a born-again Christian since 1982."


What needs to "die" IS THIS TEACHING!

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What needs to "die" IS THIS TEACHING!
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The Bible's instructions and promises are clear.
I agree, the process of healing is what this guy seems to have an issue with.
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I agree, the process of healing is what this guy seems to have an issue with.
What do you mean?
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Sad, tragic lunacy. Yet anyone who's been around Pentecost long enough will have heard people talking like this "dad."

His "argument" to the jury pretty much disproved and invalidated the entire Bible - if he was the only authority on its teachings. But he'll have a lot of time to contemplate that, and the rest of his life without a very beautiful young lady who could have brought him much happiness if he had allowed her to live.
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What do you mean?
It seems, and this is just from reading the article, that he did not want to take her to the doctor to be healed. He seemed to think that they were healed by miracles from Jesus in the Bible, and that is how he thought his daughter would be healed. He said:

Neumann testified he believed praying for the girl was needed because all healing comes from God and he never expected her to die. "If I go to the doctor, I am putting the doctor before God," Neumann said. "I am not believing what he said he would do."

Whereas, the miracle of her being healed might have entailed her going to a doctor, it seems that he did not believe in that process.

Again, just my take from the article.
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If anything this news just fuels the fire for the "atheist people"
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If you believe in miraculous divine healing, I still don't see the problem. He trusted God more than he trusted doctors. He obeyed the Bible. What did he do wrong?
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But see Twisp Jesus is the one who healed in the bible so he put all of his faith in Jesus...
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