Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?

[Pastor Keith]

The meeting wasn't in secret, it was by invitation only. If you should show up, no one was going to kick you out, unlike a UPCI General Board meeting, where I am sure if you showed up you would be asked to leave. I would like to hear PM's take on that.

The Detroit meeting was by invitation only that way it was small intimate and that by coming together those in attendance by reach some type common purpose but nothing in oppostion to the Articles of Faith.

I was invited to go, no secrecy there, but I couldn't due to $, but I have been made aware of what happened, no conspiracies or attempts to over throw the establishment.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Ron,

Saying, I don't believe you IS NOT calling someone a liar.

It's a discussion.

Poster 1: The sky is blue

Poster 2: I don't believe you

Poster 1: Why do you not believe me? Just look up and notice the clouds are white and the rest of the sky if blue.

Poster 2: It doesn't look like blue to me.

Poster 1: Well, I believe if you do some reading you will discover that it's confirmed that the sky is blue.

Poster 2: If you say so - - I've always called it teal.

Stupid, but hopefully, you'll start getting a idea of why moniker didn't call PB a liar.

Apples & Oranges Renda.

What was really said to put it in personal analogy.

Renda:"Everyone, I bought a house! I will not be having a housewarming party cuz I plain can't afford it!"

Me: "I don't believe you! You just want to exclude people!"

While the above is entirely fictitious, it does say I am not only not believing you, I am ascribing motive that may not be there!"

Do you see the difference?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

This was aimed at Prax but I want to throw in my two cents. I don't care who wants to know who I am. I will gladly reveal my identity, however I don't necessarily want my clients putting my name in google and reading what I have to say on here. I carefully guard my political and religious views from those who come into my office and it makes no sense to put my name on these posts.

Has anyone ever read the Federalist Papers? Cowards one and all.

People have a right to their privacy. Gossip is the idle chatter of someone's personal lives.

What is going on here is the addressing of public officials and their public words and the direction of a public organization

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

How many commenting on Mooney's alleged words have actually listened to the sermon in its entirety?

I have and was deeply disturbed.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

This was aimed at Prax but I want to throw in my two cents. I don't care who wants to know who I am. I will gladly reveal my identity, however I don't necessarily want my clients putting my name in google and reading what I have to say on here. I carefully guard my political and religious views from those who come into my office and it makes no sense to put my name on these posts.

Has anyone ever read the Federalist Papers? Cowards one and all.

Again, I am against "anonymous" users making accusations they would not make if thier identities were known.
It is the abuse I am against.

[oletime]

Originally Posted by Ron

I don't believe you is not the same as saying you are lying?

I am not understanding this "Amerispeak??"

ron, when you want to know what the definition of is is let us know, we americanos have learned that from clinton . the other stuff were still working on obama man can! not !!!

[rgcraig]

Ron,

I have to ask - - why do you feel you need to put so much energy into this?

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by tstew

EA, I honestly feel like this is pretty presumptive. There is nothing I've ever heard from Ron that would make intimidation the "only reason" he is saying what he's saying.

Extremely presumptive.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

I think Ron should stay - He is indeed an honest man and stands up for what he believes and does it under his own name

Thank you!
I understand what you are saying Rhoni about me using my own name & willing to stand behind what I say.

You are not saying that all who use anonymous names are liars!

Hopefully that will be clear.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Ron

Again, I am against "anonymous" users making accusations they would not make if thier identities were known.
It is the abuse I am against.

So you give yourself a pass to make accusations because you use your real name?