Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit? - Page 25

Ron · #**241** 07-08-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Ron, if you believe that, then call up PM and ask him to name the names of those he is referencing in his sermon. Get real.

How come it's okay for him to do it?

I can see VERY clearly. I work behind the scenes and know people that fear stating how they really feel sometimes because they know they would be slaughtered by the masses for speaking up.

Someone you admire very much had to post by another name in fear they would lose preaching engagements - - so, let it go, okay?

Woa, Renda is that all you heard in PM'S message???
If it is, then no wonder the Apostolic movement is in trouble!

rgcraig · #**242** 07-08-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Why thank you sir! Now if I knew who you were I could perhaps return the compliment?

Seriously, I still consider myself level headed but a reasonable person gets tired of the negativity in the posting on AFF (that is your guys cue to show me the door LOL!) & the constant tearing down of the UPC, Men of God, & anything that doesn't align with the very predominantly "Liberal" slant AFF has taken as of late.

Is being level headed only when it is a "Liberal" point of view?

RON, hello!!!!!!

What we are discussing here is one UPC "man of God" tearing down other UPC "men of God" for having a meeting - - - is that something that you can't see?

So, is the rule that only UPC preachers can tear other UPC preachers down?

rgcraig · #**243** 07-08-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Woa, Renda is that all you heard in PM'S message???
If it is, then no wonder the Apostolic movement is in trouble!

We aren't talking about his message, per se.......we are talking about what he said regarding the "secret" meeting. Did you see the title of this thread?

Ron · #**244** 07-08-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

It doesn't matter if I agree or disagree with it. I don't have to agree with every post on the forum like some forums do. We allow opinions.

There is nothing over the line or breaks a rule.

It's no different to me than the things you've said to Freeatlast or Miz.

Okay, I don't agree so fair enough.
Point is, I stand behind what I say regardless of the consequences.
Which by the way, is the main point about PM'S message.

Stand Fast, regardless of the cost!

Now, so I do not escalate things any further as I believe I have made my point whether people see it or not, I excuse myself.

To any who are offended, I apologize!

God Bless!

MrMasterMind · #**245** 07-08-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Is being level headed only when it is a "Liberal" point of view?

Of course not, I honor those of high standards. However, when they start substituting their "standards" for the Word of God, and declaring people lost who do not look like they did 50 years ago. And declaring as heretics those who would like to discuss such topics, that is NOT level headed. And that is what you are defending.

No one is saying PM or SP are not good men.

Ron · #**246** 07-08-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

RON, hello!!!!!!

What we are discussing here is one UPC "man of God" tearing down other UPC "men of God" for having a meeting - - - is that something that you can't see?

So, is the rule that only UPC preachers can tear other UPC preachers down?

Quick note: Even King David who was in the right, still would not touch King Saul, he let God take care of it!

MrMasterMind · #**247** 07-08-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Quick note: Even King David who was in the right, still would not touch King Saul, he let God take care of it!

Excellent point and in your analogy PM would be Saul.

Since he is the elder stateman attacking the anointed young men coming along behind him.

Ron · #**248** 07-08-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Excellent point and in your analogy PM would be Saul.

Since he is the elder stateman attacking the anointed young men coming along behind him.

Take it any way you desire!
Thing is, there is a lot of everyday people willing to take men of God to task on AFF & forgetting that God isn't as "loosey goosey" with his lines of authority!

rgcraig · #**249** 07-08-2009, 06:52 PM

Ron, I love ya!

Just as tired of the inconsistencies as you are of whatever you are tired of - see we can both say whatever we want here because it's an open forum!

MrMasterMind · #**250** 07-08-2009, 06:52 PM

Ron, Perhaps I need to prepare a Bible study of the office of the Pastor.

Many believe they are the NEW Levite prophets and priests.

I DO believe in pastoral authority. (If you are not willing to follow what your pastor says go somewhere else period.) But NT pastoral authority is very different than what is taught in many of our pulpits. All believers are Royal Priests. The distinctive we often use is to try and divide a line between Clergy and Laity, is a Catholic creation and not found in the NT.

Pastors are the leaders of LOCAL assemblies, not OT prophets and priests.