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05-12-2009, 09:28 AM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Paying cash, dropping your cell in the toilet, closing your bank account, quit posting on AFF, and send your cash to me so I can handle the details of erasing you from the system.
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LOL....and stay out of trouble!
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05-12-2009, 10:38 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Or restrict the government's access to this information without a valid warrant under the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
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The Patriot Act does away with the 4th amendment protection whenever they deem it necessary to do so.
They also do away with trial by jury of your peers.
They can also hold you indefinitely without charging you with anything.
They can raid your house... look at your personal effects and leave just for "sneak & peek" purposes without a warrant.
They can take you and hold you without charges or warrant and not let your family know that they have you or where you have been taken.
You can be taken and held without charges or warrant and you do not have the right to an attorney.
They can come and look at your bank records and what is in your bank deposit box and if your banker lets you know that they have done so he will be imprisoned for doing so.
And the list goes on and on and on.
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05-12-2009, 10:46 AM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
scarwy, really scarwy, this is why i buy all weapons at private places, lol,dt
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05-12-2009, 10:52 AM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
So a police state and socialism? Why did all of our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers fight in WWII and the Korean War?
I often think it's a good thing many of these old folks have passed on.
What legacy do we pass on?
Even the "church" is politics today........
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(Common sense is not so common.)
Voltaire
Common sense is genius dressed in working clothes.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
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05-12-2009, 10:56 AM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
The Patriot Act does away with the 4th amendment protection whenever they deem it necessary to do so.
They also do away with trial by jury of your peers.
They can also hold you indefinitely without charging you with anything.
They can raid your house... look at your personal effects and leave just for "sneak & peek" purposes without a warrant.
They can take you and hold you without charges or warrant and not let your family know that they have you or where you have been taken.
You can be taken and held without charges or warrant and you do not have the right to an attorney.
They can come and look at your bank records and what is in your bank deposit box and if your banker lets you know that they have done so he will be imprisoned for doing so.
And the list goes on and on and on.
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Many of those statements are really over stated. Care to give some citations from the patriot act for some of those assertions?
I have to step out of the office for the afternoon and I will be in a hearing all morning tomorrow but I look forward to seeing your evidence.
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05-12-2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
scarwy, really scarwy, this is why i buy all weapons at private places, lol,dt
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Shouldn't have said this on the net. Now they know you have guns.
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05-12-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter
Shouldn't have said this on the net. Now they know you have guns.
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no question in there minds, i bought many at stores years ago, lol
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05-12-2009, 09:52 PM
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but made himself of no reputation
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
The Patriot Act does away with the 4th amendment protection whenever they deem it necessary to do so.
They also do away with trial by jury of your peers.
They can also hold you indefinitely without charging you with anything.
They can raid your house... look at your personal effects and leave just for "sneak & peek" purposes without a warrant.
They can take you and hold you without charges or warrant and not let your family know that they have you or where you have been taken.
You can be taken and held without charges or warrant and you do not have the right to an attorney.
They can come and look at your bank records and what is in your bank deposit box and if your banker lets you know that they have done so he will be imprisoned for doing so.
And the list goes on and on and on.
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wow, seems like this should be a great time for people to put their trust in God!
The good news is that even if we end up in prison for 13-17 years we can be confident that his purposes are being worked for the salvation of our brethren.
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Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath [James 1:19]
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05-12-2009, 10:03 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Paying cash, dropping your cell in the toilet, closing your bank account, quit posting on AFF, and send your cash to me so I can handle the details of erasing you from the system.
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Baron, I know your post is TIC, but I will tell you that I rarely, if ever use a credit or debit card.
I pay cash for everything I possibly can.
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05-12-2009, 10:12 PM
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Re: US becoming a police state???
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Baron, I know your post is TIC, but I will tell you that I rarely, if ever use a credit or debit card.
I pay cash for everything I possibly can.
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That's because you are not enlightened. But the PTB will "re-educate" you in the camp.........Mha ha ha ha
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