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Old 02-16-2009, 04:39 PM
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Is touching an intimate act? Of course it is.

My guess is if it was not, the cuddle would NOT BE of ANY interest to ANY one, on ANY couch.

To me, the funny thing in this thread is our awareness of the power of human touch and how we participate in this before and after marriage, yet to some it is being presented as little different than a passing glance or a courteous salutation.

During times of marital conflict there is often an immediate loss of TOUCH, EVEN IF the persons involved were on a couch --watching a movie.

Maybe what some want is to have the pleasurable things about being married but don't want the hassles that accompany a lose of individual liberty that BOTH parties experience by the vow that forms of the new marriage entity.
Wow...great post!
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Here is the bottom line about sex, friends, and I should know. It's like the old song. The ankle bone connected to the leg bone and the leg bone connected to the thigh bone.

You start at the ankle and you get to the leg and then you get to the hip and we all know what that means.

Don't even start at the big toe even though it's uglier and hairier than sin.
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My dear sir, if a man cannot handle his arm around a woman before they are married he should not do it and CERTAINLY not in front of a movie.
Ms Emma,
Since you have consistently identified the location of the man's arm, could you please locate the following for me (at a time when a woman is on a couch with a man who had his arm around her)...
where would her:
1. Head
2. Hands
3. Legs

be with respect to the man who has his arm around her?
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ILG,
Is touching an intimate act? Of course it is.

My guess is if it was not, the cuddle would NOT BE of ANY interest to ANY one, on ANY couch.

To me, the funny thing in this thread is our awareness of the power of human touch and how we participate in this before and after marriage, yet to some it is being presented as little different than a passing glance or a courteous salutation.

During times of marital conflict there is often an immediate loss of TOUCH, EVEN IF the persons involved were on a couch --watching a movie.

Maybe what some want is to have the pleasurable things about being married but don't want the hassels that accompany a lose of individual liberty that BOTH parties experience by the vow that forms of the new marriage entity.
Here is the thing. There is an appropriate amount of touch between unmarried couples. Sitting closely on a couch watching a movie isn't sex.
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Here is the thing. There is an appropriate amount of touch between unmarried couples. Sitting closely on a couch watching a movie isn't sex.
it isn't cuddling either.
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ILG,
Is touching an intimate act? Of course it is.

My guess is if it was not, the cuddle would NOT BE of ANY interest to ANY one, on ANY couch.

To me, the funny thing in this thread is our awareness of the power of human touch and how we participate in this before and after marriage, yet to some it is being presented as little different than a passing glance or a courteous salutation.

During times of marital conflict there is often an immediate loss of TOUCH, EVEN IF the persons involved were on a couch --watching a movie.

Maybe what some want is to have the pleasurable things about being married but don't want the hassels that accompany a lose of individual liberty that BOTH parties experience by the vow that forms of the new marriage entity.
Isn't that what started this whole controversy?
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Ms Emma,
Since you have consistently identified the location of the man's arm, could you please locate the following for me (at a time when a woman is on a couch with a man who had his arm around her)...
where would her:
1. Head
2. Hands
3. Legs

be with respect to the man who has his arm around her?
Her head would be on top of her neck. Her hands would be at the ends of her arms. Her legs would be on the couch (both of them). His arm would be around her shoulders and her hands would be in her lap and her head would be upright looking at the movie. And if he moved his hand onto her thigh, she would slap him a good one.
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Here is the thing. There is an appropriate amount of touch between unmarried couples. Sitting closely on a couch watching a movie isn't sex.
wow.
I once was blind but now I see.
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wow.
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My high IQ is sensing sarcasm.
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wow.
I once was blind but now I see.
So, your mom told you that too?
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