Jimmy Swaggart's Wife - Page 6

LUKE2447 · #51 12-18-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I would be very interested to know what RP thought was the truth. Was it the Oneness doctrine, standards, speaking in tongues to be saved, or baptismal regeneration?

Come on delta stop with the misuse and abuse of terms that are not true.
I don't believe this and I am a 3 stepper.

deltaguitar · #52 12-18-2008, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Come on delta stop with the misuse and abuse of terms that are not true.
I don't believe this and I am a 3 stepper.

The reason I mention it is because many don't realize that this is what is taught in many places in Oneness groups.

StMark · #53 12-18-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by South of I 90

He owned and still owns some of the most valuable property in B.R. along the I-10 corridor. The Mall of Louisana and all the surrounding businesses is on property he sold for developement.

He also did not have any debt at the time the scandals broke back in 1986. What was under construction at the time came to a halt. There is multi-storied building, that looks bombed out because it was never completed. It has been a huge eyesore in one of the nicest areas of B.R for over 20 years.

That pretty much explains it along with Sherri's mention of royalties.

Prax, you're right about his teachings

2020Vision · #54 12-18-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Don't kid yourself. I've known several ministers from other denominations who had no clue whatsoever the UPC is. In fact, with at least two I've talked with, when I mentioned that I grew up UPC and still believe in the doctrine of the UPC (oneness, Jesus' name baptism), they had no idea what I was talking about and could see no reason at all why it should bother them to have me teaching Sunday School in their trinity churches.

Someone on the status of JS certainly does. So many have an inferiority complex about their faith. We aren't backwoods anymore. We've consistently made the articles, at times the cover, of charismatic magazine, orthodox magazines, religious ezines, etc... You can talk to the tape guys at our larger churches and find out who orders tapes/cds.

StMark · #55 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM

Lots of interesting post here.

Didn't know that RP had a relative who is a preacher in Oneness.
It is well known that he orders Cds from BOTT though

Neck, that was interesting info you posted as well

2020Vision · #56 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by deltaguitar

How many of you guys actually listen to JS on a regular basis? While I don't listen as much anymore I still listen to his study in the word almost every morning on my way to work. It is very rare that they mention the Oneness folks but they usually talk about us in a much better light than they do Rick Warren and all the other folks they bash.

I have also heard them say that many of us believe the same as them but it is just terminology. Sounds like they aren't as hard line as they once were.

No doubt. JS's influence on our churches I'm sure has been reciprocal. Interesting.

Coffee99 · #57 12-18-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision

Delta, I read your post on another thread too about doubting RP even knew who the UPC was. Of course they do! The largest oneness organization in the country! Influential. Great preachers. Some of the finest preachers even. There's no doubt in my mind, all of Christendom knows who the UPC is. And that's not being egocentric about our organization. It's pretty solid. I've never met a minister from a different denomination that answered me "UPC? What's that?" Either way, UPC is those oneness people that he is referring to, since... we are ONENESS!

BTW... count me in as one "afraid" of homosexuality and free masons.

Its been my experience that most of the ministers (from many denominations) I've met have no clue who the UPC is or what they believe.

2020Vision · #58 12-18-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coffee99

Its been my experience that most of the ministers (from many denominations) I've met have no clue who the UPC is or what they believe.

Interesting. Most of the ones I talk to immediately understand. Laity doesn't. Ministry does. This includes Baptists, Catholic, JW, Methodist, etc. They may not know our doctrines like the back of their hand, but they know about our holiness positions, and the Oneness, which they reply "Modalists"?

Back to the post, I assure you, and would bet all my money on it (rhetoric only, no gambling here!), that JS is very aware of the UPC and Oneness Pentecost in general.

Coffee99 · #59 12-18-2008, 11:40 AM

Maybe it just depends on what part of the country you live in. Now JS - yep, I bet (rhetoric only) he certainly knows.

Neck · #60 12-18-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

Lots of interesting post here.

Didn't know that RP had a relative who is a preacher in Oneness.
It is well known that he orders Cds from BOTT though

Neck, that was interesting info you posted as well

I heard RP gave free rides to some Oneness students at his school in Columbus.

Many today are looking that the breech between Onenss and Trinty as a not so bold a line...