Legacy: KH's Second Greatest Impact? - Page 4

A_PoMo · #31 12-10-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Charnock

I do not believe he intended to "get rid of guys."

However, he was different than NU. NU would not oppose them. KH did, and does. KH called their bluff and they left.

I don't think he intended to get rid of anybody either. I just think he overestimated his influence and as a result a bunch of guys left. He tends to do that. You can get away with the 'my way or the highway' approach at a local level, but on the national level when leading your peers it gets different results. Perhaps NAU wasn't so dumb after all; he didn't contend for his view to the disunity of the group. And especially not so over something as inconsequential and irrelevant as TV ministry/advertisement.

George · #32 12-10-2008, 12:32 PM

For starters, Pentecostal Herald looks a whole lot better.

mizpeh · #33 12-10-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo

I don't think he intended to get rid of anybody either. I just think he overestimated his influence and as a result a bunch of guys left. He tends to do that. You can get away with the 'my way or the highway' approach at a local level, but on the national level when leading your peers it gets different results. Perhaps NAU wasn't so dumb after all; he didn't contend for his view to the disunity of the group. And especially not so over something as inconsequential and irrelevant as TV ministry/advertisement.

Or it may have been the view of the majority of the licensed ministers who voted in favor and had nothing to do with KH and a heavy hand.

2020Vision · #34 12-10-2008, 12:40 PM

He called their bluff, but there was no bluffing. They left.

Charnock · #35 12-10-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 2020Vision

He called their bluff, but there was no bluffing. They left.

True.

The difference is that they would threaten NU and he would cave (see Affirmation Statement). KH was prepared to deal with the consequences of an exodus.

RevDWW · #36 12-10-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Legacies, in the realm of the church, just like politics, is dependant upon who is doing the remembering.

Ahhh yes, Legacy is in the eye of the beholder. And the winner writes the history.

Steve Epley · #37 12-10-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by A_PoMo

I don't think he intended to get rid of anybody either. I just think he overestimated his influence and as a result a bunch of guys left. He tends to do that. You can get away with the 'my way or the highway' approach at a local level, but on the national level when leading your peers it gets different results. Perhaps NAU wasn't so dumb after all; he didn't contend for his view to the disunity of the group. And especially not so over something as inconsequential and irrelevant as TV ministry/advertisement.

What a rare moment we agree.

Elder Haney anlong with those pushing Res.. 4 never imagined the effect it would have and it ain't over.

RevDWW · #38 12-10-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

What a rare moment we agree.

Elder Haney anlong with those pushing Res.. 4 never imagined the effect it would have and it ain't over.

Hey Bro. E.,
Are you still in Nederland?

Steve Epley · #39 12-10-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

Hey Bro. E.,
Are you still in Nederland?

Yes.

Charnock · #40 12-10-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

What a rare moment we agree.

Elder Haney anlong with those pushing Res.. 4 never imagined the effect it would have and it ain't over.

Give me a break Elder. KH knew full well what would happen if the resolution passed. They had been threatening to leave for years. Believe me, he counted the cost, and decided it was worth it.

It is folly to believe that no one knew there would be a tiny split. I really see no major impact on the UPC.