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Old 04-04-2007, 09:46 AM
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The "holiness" position of the upci is a dress code. I know one district official in an unamed state who cannot effectively present his case for a dress code other than it has been that way for years.

For many the upci identity is tied up into 4 things. One God. Dress Code. Acts 2:38. No television.

The upci is not known for world evangelism. The upci is not known for great revivals.

Traditionalism the devil's last grasp at keeping the church below it's God given potential. The devil knows when the church discovers God is a God of principle, unprecedent revival will break out.

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  1. Do you feel any reversal of our traditional position relative to television will eventually lead to a reversal of all position regarding television?
  1. Do you feel that any reversal of any traditional position relative to television will lead to the erosion of our holiness position?
  2. Do you think it is acceptable to advertise on the internet, but not on television?
  3. Do you think it is acceptable to minister on the internet, but not on television?




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Old 04-04-2007, 09:51 AM
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I hope they do a better job on tv commercials than on the radio commercials the youth division put out a few years ago.. Very sloppy... most of the spots went over 30 seconds. Those under 30 seconds left little time to put the church name in the tag. Get a little more professionalism in the production and it could become a viable option.


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Ding! Ding! There's how it could pass. Headquarters will allow it if they can produce the commercials and make the profits for them.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:13 AM
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Ding! Ding! There's how it could pass. Headquarters will allow it if they can produce the commercials and make the profits for them.
I believe you might be on to something here!

Are the 16 questions being mailed out soon?
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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* * HERE IS ALL 16 QUESTIONS IN ORDER * * Requires Yes or No answer:

1.Would you be in favor of UPCI ministers granted liberty to minister on television?

2.Would you like UPCI ministers to be allowed to advertise on television?

3.Would you like to see “the disapproval of television in church members homes” be removed from articles of faith?

4.Would you like for UPCI ministers to be allowed to have televisions in their homes?

5.Would the adoption, even the limited use of television, have a negative affect on your relationship with UPCI.

6.Would the continued total ban on television have a negative affect on your relationship with the UPCI?

7.Would you use television for advertising if it were allowed?

8.Would you use television for ministering if it were allowed?

9.Do you feel any reversal of our traditional position relative to television will eventually lead to a reversal of all position regarding television?

10.Do you feel that any reversal of any traditional position relative to television will lead to the erosion of our holiness position?

11.Do you think it is acceptable to advertise on the internet, but not on television?

12,Do you think it is acceptable to minister on the internet, but not on television?

13.Would you be in favor of the UPCI producing commercials for advertising on television?

14.Are you a pastor?

15.Are you a full-time evangelist?

16.Do you meet the qualification to vote at the next General Conference?
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:33 PM
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What a novel idea, delete a section that in many circles has been ignored for decades.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:39 PM
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* * HERE IS ALL 16 QUESTIONS IN ORDER * * Requires Yes or No answer:

1.Would you be in favor of UPCI ministers granted liberty to minister on television?

2.Would you like UPCI ministers to be allowed to advertise on television?

3.Would you like to see “the disapproval of television in church members homes” be removed from articles of faith?

4.Would you like for UPCI ministers to be allowed to have televisions in their homes?

5.Would the adoption, even the limited use of television, have a negative affect on your relationship with UPCI.

6.Would the continued total ban on television have a negative affect on your relationship with the UPCI?

7.Would you use television for advertising if it were allowed?

8.Would you use television for ministering if it were allowed?

9.Do you feel any reversal of our traditional position relative to television will eventually lead to a reversal of all position regarding television?

10.Do you feel that any reversal of any traditional position relative to television will lead to the erosion of our holiness position?

11.Do you think it is acceptable to advertise on the internet, but not on television?

12,Do you think it is acceptable to minister on the internet, but not on television?

13.Would you be in favor of the UPCI producing commercials for advertising on television?

14.Are you a pastor?

15.Are you a full-time evangelist?

16.Do you meet the qualification to vote at the next General Conference?
Just the fact that these questions are being asked is MONUMENTAL.
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You admit this would negatively affect your relationship w/ the org ... WH ... please elaborate.
I will not support anything on a national level. I will only fellowship with those who are also agasint any use of TV.
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I will not support anything on a national level. I will only fellowship with those who are also agasint any use of TV.
Are you against churches promoting themselves on the Internet?
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The "holiness" position of the upci is a dress code. I know one district official in an unamed state who cannot effectively present his case for a dress code other than it has been that way for years.

For many the upci identity is tied up into 4 things. One God. Dress Code. Acts 2:38. No television.

The upci is not known for world evangelism. The upci is not known for great revivals.

Traditionalism the devil's last grasp at keeping the church below it's God given potential. The devil knows when the church discovers God is a God of principle, unprecedent revival will break out.
Define another One-God Jesus-Name Org that is ON TV and having revival then.

Your argument is emotions.
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Are you against churches promoting themselves on the Internet?
No not as long as they don't use video.
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