Seven Days of Sex... Woo Hoo!! :)

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Antipas

lol

Sorry ladies. (You guys are free to disagree, I could be wrong.)

My point is that in America we're way too sensitive about things that normal human behaviors.

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Many state their opposition to Homosexuality being 2 people of the same sex engaging in sex can not produce offspring.

Thus if all humans were to engage in same sex relations.

Within 75-100 years the last human would live.

Unless of course we kept pregnancies coming by artifical devices.

But those devices would not be via sex.

I will use the same logic with many of the folks trying to gain a sense of AS or OS as being a normal act between husband and wife.

I am not arguing the act as normal or not normal in a moral sense.

But many woman do not feel comfortable engaging in these acts.

I would then use the argument would these acts produce pregnancies?

I understand the birth control argument....

But we need to understand that ultimate purety and pleasure will be when engaging in a natural position of nature.

That is by God's design.

It helps the woman submit to the act and man to engage in what is natural in this expression.

It is the physical and mystical union expessed in this rightful position of man and woman in harmony.

So I would add to this thought.

If a husband engages in these acts (AS-OS) with his wife.

He better have enough staying power to then engage in the sexual expression with his wife that will allow her by nature to expression in a natural position.

I am not going to over express myself but in this natural state where a woman submits herself in this loving moment.

That is the "it" factor.......

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by revrandy

this thread is somewhat funny...it's supposed to be beneficial to adults who are adults and minister to those who can actually have sex under the umbrella of marriage and yet the only topics that have seem to be successful have been nothing of real value to a marriage???

Interesting....excluding NECK who contributed some value...among a few other scattered comments....what value has this thread really produced other than to discuss 3 acts??? ....

And yet you keep coming back.

Nothing says you have to read the thread...........

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

And yet you keep coming back.

Nothing says you have to read the thread...........

Is that the best you got Phelps?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Is that the best you got Phelps?

I match the intelligence of my responses to the intelligence of the posts to which I'm replying.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I match the intelligence of my responses to the intelligence of the posts to which I'm replying.

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Sis. Falla, I do not doubt this story. I'm sure it's happened many more times that we realize, or care to admit.

But, it's a very long reach to try and tie this situation to AS or OS.

And, trust me, I"ve heard the "if you do THAT you'll do THIS" argument, and the "This act carries a homosexual spirit" argument, frankly, it just doesn't hold water.

IF AS and OS with a consenting spouse leads to homosexuality, there are a LOT more marriages that would be broken up, in my opinion.

I agree with you... and until this thread had never heard (well, at least OS) that it carried a homosexual spirit or associated with the homosexual lifestyle.

I also didn't realize it was considered unacceptable for Christians... I'm sorry for the terrible experience you went through with a church over this type of thing. I've never thought it was anyone's business but the husband/wife.

I guess I learn something new all the time.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed

I agree with you... and until this thread had never heard (well, at least OS) that it carried a homosexual spirit or associated with the homosexual lifestyle.

I also didn't realize it was considered unacceptable for Christians... I'm sorry for the terrible experience you went through with a church over this type of thing. I've never thought it was anyone's business but the husband/wife.

I guess I learn something new all the time.

Me too, Lisa, lol!

Imagine my surprise when after having been at this church for a few weeks, the pastor called me into the office, put a piece of paper in front of me and told me if I didn't sign it, I was fired.

Would have been nice if we had discussed that BEFORE I accepted this position!

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Sis. Falla, I do not doubt this story. I'm sure it's happened many more times that we realize, or care to admit.

But, it's a very long reach to try and tie this situation to AS or OS.

And, trust me, I"ve heard the "if you do THAT you'll do THIS" argument, and the "This act carries a homosexual spirit" argument, frankly, it just doesn't hold water.

IF AS and OS with a consenting spouse leads to homosexuality, there are a LOT more marriages that would be broken up, in my opinion.

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Consenting and not submitting is the key word.....

Many marriages have ended in divorce because of a partner having dominance in the area of intimate expression.

Again on this thread I still see individuals just looking for an absolute on a particular act.

If the spouse does not feel good about engaging in such an act it is wrong.

Regardless if that spouse does submit and you know that they have a problem with engaging.

That is not consent but submission by dominance.

Again my position is that this is to be worked out within the privacy of a marriage.

My thoughts are only to have each and everyone look not at any act.

But what are the motives, the enticement, the desire, the frequency, etc.

Not what it may lead to or any concept of that nature.

Solely do you understand the emotions of your spouse...

Not have you tried it.

Have you talked about it.

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Me too, Lisa, lol!

Imagine my surprise when after having been at this church for a few weeks, the pastor called me into the office, put a piece of paper in front of me and told me if I didn't sign it, I was fired.

Would have been nice if we had discussed that BEFORE I accepted this position!

I'm sure that would have been nice to have known BEFORE.


I am sure there are some who have sincere convictions or beliefs (I can respect that)... but I would say that someone to go to that extreme in legislation has a problem that goes much deeper.

Kinda like those who are so hateful about some standards, and feel so strongly about enforcing them upon others...they seem to have a fixation because they are envious of those who do have liberty.

Things like what have been discussed on this thread should be left up to couples and their personal preferences.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Me too, Lisa, lol!

Imagine my surprise when after having been at this church for a few weeks, the pastor called me into the office, put a piece of paper in front of me and told me if I didn't sign it, I was fired.

Would have been nice if we had discussed that BEFORE I accepted this position!

I agree with you MP that is minipulation and wrong...