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11-13-2008, 05:34 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
That is what they are saying.
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Actually I am not saying that.
I basically commented that, when it comes to "credibility," high profile false prophets don't score real high with me.
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11-13-2008, 05:47 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
Would anyone care to comment on why is it that children, when sexually abused, have the issues they do when their older and are, seemingly, to ever fully overcome, recover, or even repent once the "demons" start to manifest themselves?
I, for one, do believe he will be completely delivered-- and may already be. Time will tell.
BTW, he's not a "false prophet".
It is almost as if some folks on here simply believe that unless one is an Apostolic, they're going to hell, regardless.
Doesn't anyone see the folly in thinking that way-- the spiritual pride that sets you up for, when you think that way?
I have pity for the man who had the innocence of his boyhood stripped away!
It's not like it was his fault.
We should be more careful with our statements.
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11-13-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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Who's 'we'? I didn't say that.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-13-2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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Originally Posted by Amos
Actually I am not saying that.
I basically commented that, when it comes to "credibility," high profile false prophets don't score real high with me.
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So in other words "What I posted had ziltch, nada NOTHING to do with the topic...I was just expressing myself"? 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-13-2008, 06:10 PM
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^ = A_Post-Modern
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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11-14-2008, 12:44 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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Originally Posted by 1399
Would anyone care to comment on why is it that most children, when sexually abused, have the issues they do when their older and are, seemingly, never able to fully overcome, recover, or even repent once the "demons" start to manifest themselves?
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11-14-2008, 02:22 PM
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Re: Disgraced Pastor Haggard Claims Abuse As A Chi
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Originally Posted by 1399
Would anyone care to comment on why is it that children, when sexually abused, have the issues they do when their older and are, seemingly, to ever fully overcome, recover, or even repent once the "demons" start to manifest themselves?
I, for one, do believe he will be completely delivered-- and may already be. Time will tell.
BTW, he's not a "false prophet".
It is almost as if some folks on here simply believe that unless one is an Apostolic, they're going to hell, regardless.
Doesn't anyone see the folly in thinking that way-- the spiritual pride that sets you up for, when you think that way?
I have pity for the man who had the innocence of his boyhood stripped away!
It's not like it was his fault.
We should be more careful with our statements.
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I think it's all about foundations. When they are built incorrectly, with improper materials, it is almost impossible to have a sound structure. Yes, the structure can be completely torn down, and the foundation rebuilt, but the process is extremely difficult.
I would think especially with the case of childhood sexual abuse. The foundation of their sexual identity is warped and distorted as it is first being built. Over the years, layers upon layers are built over it. They may get some help, remove a few layers and rebuild and think themselves "cured". Only to find that the behavior or "perversion" continues to manifest itself.
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