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Old 11-06-2008, 02:45 PM
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Re: Elections Foreshadow the Antichrist

I wont get into all the preterist debate stuff. I will say that Daniel 9:27 speaks of a covenant that is for one week (week of years = 7 years). It says the AC will confirm that covenant. It then references that in the midst of the week he causes the sacrifices and oblations to cease, inferring that the covenant is related to the rebuilt Temple and the return of animal sacrifices in Jerusalem.

The Jews are already prepared to rebuild it. Check out www.thetempleinstitute.com they have everything ready, even prefabricating the Temple so they can quickly construct it. Priests are trained and ready for sacrifices and Temple worship.

If a peace treaty could be signed between Israel and the Palestinians and have decisions contained within related to sharing the Temple Mount and allowing Israel to build a Temple, that would be a significant prophetic fulfillment. Anyone negotiating with Israel and the Palestinians will have to address this issue. The AC will be the one who does it.
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:58 PM
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I agree with a lot of that, for sure.

I'm not one of those loonies that thinks Obama is the Antichrist.. but I do think the relatively sudden rise of Obama to the presidency is in a sense a foreshadowing of the rise of the coming Antichrist.
When he gets shot in the head and raised in three days then we should worry.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:01 PM
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When he gets shot in the head and raised in three days then we should worry.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:08 PM
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And THATS the best news of all!

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Jhn 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Yes it is!
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:11 PM
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:29 PM
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I wont get into all the preterist debate stuff. I will say that Daniel 9:27 speaks of a covenant that is for one week (week of years = 7 years). It says the AC will confirm that covenant. It then references that in the midst of the week he causes the sacrifices and oblations to cease, inferring that the covenant is related to the rebuilt Temple and the return of animal sacrifices in Jerusalem.

The Jews are already prepared to rebuild it. Check out www.the templeinstitute.com they have everything ready, even prefabricating the Temple so they can quickly construct it. Priests are trained and ready for sacrifices and Temple worship.

If a peace treaty could be signed between Israel and the Palestinians and have decisions contained within related to sharing the Temple Mount and allowing Israel to build a Temple, that would be a significant prophetic fulfillment. Anyone negotiating with Israel and the Palestinians will have to address this issue. The AC will be the one who does it.
DB, I appreciate and respect your right to have whatever opinion/belief you wish about "end time" prophecy. However, you should not haphazard post things you claim are in the Bible if you cannot give the verses where such things are actually found. That’s all I am pointing out.

Even what you said about having all things ready for a third temple is pure fiction; firstly because there is not one scripture in the entire Bible for another Temple, and secondly because today there is no physical way to satisfy the mandates for the priesthood as set in the Bible. No Jew today can absolutely prove they have Jewish lineage back to Zadok and Aaron. The Bible requires proof of a pure lineage, which therefore makes DNA inadmissible. I suggest you look into the facts of this in your Bible before continuing to make such statements.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:45 PM
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DB, I appreciate and respect your right to have whatever opinion/belief you wish about "end time" prophecy. However, you should not haphazard post things you claim are in the Bible if you cannot give the verses where such things are actually found. That’s all I am pointing out.

Even what you said about having all things ready for a third temple is pure fiction; firstly because there is not one scripture in the entire Bible for another Temple, and secondly because today there is no physical way to satisfy the mandates for the priesthood as set in the Bible. No Jew today can absolutely prove they have Jewish lineage back to Zadok and Aaron. The Bible requires proof of a pure lineage, which therefore makes DNA inadmissible. I suggest you look into the facts of this in your Bible before continuing to make such statements.
Bro, I am not being haphazard. I've been studying and teaching this for years and I have watched with amazement as things foretold in the scripture at the least be foreshadowed by current events. I didn't list scriptures in my original post b/c I didn't want this to turn into a rapture/tribulation/pre/post/mid/preterist debate. There are many of us here that believe in the resurrection of the dead in Christ and those that are alive and remain. For us, we see many things lining up with what we see in the Bible. I would be glad to jump over to Deep Waters and talk more if you want, not for heated debate, but for healthy discussion.

I have been to the Temple Institute twice and these people are serious. And there are many, many, many Jews that are serious about reconstituting Temple worship. They embrace the Old Testament and believe this is the will of God for them. Should they succeed at rebuilding the Temple and resume OT sacrifices, this would be significant as far as prophecy is concerned.

Whether they are able to determine the priesthood of people (they told us that they are confident they can), is inconsequential b/c we know Temple worship means nothing under the New Covenant. The issue here is not the validity of modern animal sacrifices but whether they actually can rebuild the Temple and resume the sacrifices. That would make the fulfillment of the prophecy of Daniel 9:27 possible.

Link above was incorrect: www.thetempleinstitute.org
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:58 PM
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(Daniel 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

No offense, but where does the above say what you're claiming?
Didn't Jesus fulfill that? lol
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Old 11-06-2008, 05:03 PM
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Okay, since you said 'please' and all... but I have a question, where do you get the basis for the rebuilding of the temple?

send it to me via pm.. thanks
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Didn't Jesus fulfill that? lol
Indeed He did.
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