Prophetic Word about the Election

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by A_PoMo

Come on dude, you're being way too extreme here. You're reminding me of Rush. You're smarter than that.

Your kidding right, you trust the sinful nature and the ability of a spiritual realm to take the enlightened heart of Western Theology and turn it for a force of hell, come on Po your smarter than that.

As the Professors at Western, where much of our theology comes from. Germany, pre 1930's. Out of that enlightened, modern society, came the hounds of hell, because no one read the signs, they just wanted change and pay back. Clearly people want the same today.

I am not a conspirital nut, I love history and see some of the same parallels.

[Pastor Keith]

By the way, Obama is on record saying he wants to build a civilian defense force.

The beginnings of the SS came through the same way. An internal military arm answerable to the Leader.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by keith4him

By the way, Obama is on record saying he wants to build a civilian defense force.

The beginnings of the SS came through the same way. An internal military arm answerable to the Leader.

That may be true Keith, but under a Republican Administration you guys have been giving up (as a whole) personal freedoms left & right.

[iceniez]

Originally Posted by keith4him

By the way, Obama is on record saying he wants to build a civilian defense force.

The beginnings of the SS came through the same way. An internal military arm answerable to the Leader.

What does that mean exactly? Because I didn't understand his statement.

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by keith4him

By the way, Obama is on record saying he wants to build a civilian defense force.

The beginnings of the SS came through the same way. An internal military arm answerable to the Leader.

Ummmm....our founding fathers invisioned a civilian defense force. Technically the United States Army on the Federal level isn't something the founding fathers would have been too comfortable with. They were supporters of the citizen soldiers of the state militias...that became the National Guard.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Ummmm....our founding fathers invisioned a civilian defense force. Technically the United States Army on the Federal level isn't something the founding fathers would have been too comfortable with. They were supporters of the citizen soldiers of the state militias...that became the National Guard.

We have a National Guard, why would we need a new force?

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Ron

That may be true Keith, but under a Republican Administration you guys have been giving up (as a whole) personal freedoms left & right.

What personal freedoms have we given up?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by keith4him

What personal freedoms have we given up?

Have you read the Patriot Act lately?


http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by keith4him

We have a National Guard, why would we need a new force?

I'd have to know more specifics about what you're talking about. I'd want to know their overall mission and level of training. We do need more citizen involvement.

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by keith4him

What personal freedoms have we given up?

Are you serious???

Wow. The Bush Presidency has done more to undermine personal liberties than any administration we've ever had since the day's of McCarthyism.