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Yeah it counts for something I guess. Maybe we should rename him "Joe the Wannabe Plumber".
I think it's funny that such a big deal was made about him, when he isn't even licensed, he's the subject of two tax lien's, and the local plumber's union leader claims, "he's playing games with the world."
I bet the guy wishes they'd never mentioned his name last night.
Boy, talk about splitting hairs.
The guy has worked for a plumber for 6 years, but just because he doesn't have a license he's not a plumber? Wow.
Guess all you independent preachers who don't have a license are just "wannabe preachers", lol!
Come on, Mike, if you're going to roast McCain, do it over something substantial. This is just petty.
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The guy has worked for a plumber for 6 years, but just because he doesn't have a license he's not a plumber? Wow.
Guess all you independent preachers who don't have a license are just "wannabe preachers", lol!
Come on, Mike, if you're going to roast McCain, do it over something substantial. This is just petty.
First of all, I never roasted McCain in this thread. I've saved that for the places he actually deserves it. I never proposed it had gargantuan effects either way.
I just found it amusing that a guy who took up so much of the debate on Wednesday night, isn't a licensed plumber, isn't planning on buying that much discussed business anytime soon, doesn't make $250K personally and the business doesn't even clear $250K a year.
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When Joe the Plumber complained about Obama's tax plan, I thought he meant it would hurt him personally. He admitted he isn't making above $200K so he wouldn't have any tax increases.
He also said that the business doesn't bring in more than $250K, that's just what he was thinking about paying for the business if he bought it. So after all of that, all the talk last night about Joe the Plumber seems pointless to me.
I haven't read the whole thread so maybe someone has already mentioned this but here goes. If the guy can't pay the $ 1200.00 in taxes that he owes, how can he buy a business for a quarter of a million dollars?
It's not easy to spend other people's money. If I run for Congress, I'll let AFF know about it.
I see nothing wrong with increasing the taxes on the wealthy. When I am wealthy, I'll look forward to being that much more of a positive contribution to our society.
Seriously? You think paying more taxes is a way to make a positive contribution to our society? What about having the choice about where to make charitable donations vs funding government programs that are diametrically opposed to my core beliefs. What about using extra money to start a small business & create jobs. Funny, my goals have never been to make more money so I could pay more taxes. I don't look at that as a positive contribution to society.
Seriously? You think paying more taxes is a way to make a positive contribution to our society? What about having the choice about where to make charitable donations vs funding government programs that are diametrically opposed to my core beliefs. What about using extra money to start a small business & create jobs. Funny, my goals have never been to make more money so I could pay more taxes. I don't look at that as a positive contribution to society.
Do you believe it's right to send soldiers to war without up-armor on their HUMV's? Do you believe that fighting a $2 billion per week war costs money?
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Turns out, "Joe the Plumber" the mega star of the debate last night isn't a licensed plumber.
He also admits that he doesn't have any plan to buy the business we've heard so much about and that at his current income level, Obama's tax plan wouldn't hurt him personally.
Seriously? You think paying more taxes is a way to make a positive contribution to our society? What about having the choice about where to make charitable donations vs funding government programs that are diametrically opposed to my core beliefs. What about using extra money to start a small business & create jobs. Funny, my goals have never been to make more money so I could pay more taxes. I don't look at that as a positive contribution to society.
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Do you believe it's right to send soldiers to war without up-armor on their HUMV's? Do you believe that fighting a $2 billion per week war costs money?
Let's leave out the whole war issue.
When I start my own business and I am netting 300k annually, when my taxes increase, I know that my tax dollars will be going towards making sure my employees have reliable government subsidized public transportation.
When my employees get sick, my tax dollars will go to help fund the public community health center and the public hospital.
My children may be in a private, Christian school, buy my employees children will probably go to a public school. My tax dollars will go to help pay for their textbooks and the salaries of their teachers.
TAX DOLLARS WELL SPENT DO A LOT OF GOOD!
I will be glad to do my part.
A question I once heard-- not my own quote:
"Why is it such an honor for a poor boy to go off to war and die for his country, but such a burden for rich men to pay taxes?"
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Re: "Joe the Plumber" actually isn't.
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Originally Posted by 1399
Let's leave out the whole war issue.
When I start my own business and I am netting 300k annually, when my taxes increase, I know that my tax dollars will be going towards making sure my employees have reliable government subsidized public transportation.
When my employees get sick, my tax dollars will go to help fund the public community health center and the public hospital.
My children may be in a private, Christian school, buy my employees children will probably go to a public school. My tax dollars will go to help pay for their textbooks and the salaries of their teachers.
TAX DOLLARS WELL SPENT DO A LOT OF GOOD!
I will be glad to do my part.
A question I once heard-- not my own quote:
"Why is it such an honor for a poor boy to go off to war and die for his country, but such a burden for rich men to pay taxes?"
I thought you said, Let's leave out the whole war issue.
It's a burden for everyone to pay taxes. Get off this poor people stuff, I see them in my town stopping by to pick up their WICK paperwork in their Jags, Lincolns and Cadillacs. Many are poor because of poor spending habits. Problem with some poor people the more you give them the more they want. Seems very strange to me that so many people are out of work yet I see sighns all over the place HELP WANTED In my business I am constantly looking for someone that wants to work.
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