If you want to leave your spouse, dont read this!

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Sherri

The Church of God of Prophecy would tell you that you have to divorce the present one and return to the first one. That the second marriage is not really a marriage before God. We have dealt with this more than once from people who were raised in that background. By refusing to recognize any second marriages, they alienate themselves from about half of society.

I have some close friends that believe like that but I cannot see that in the Bible at all..I just feel many things we have to leave to the hands of a mericful God...it might work one time in a million but as a rule that doctrine will not work in the world we live in..
Just my opinion...

[Balanced]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Originally Posted by All4one

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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What are you trying to say? If someone sins on purpose they cant be saved?

All stmatthew did was quote Hebrews 10:26.

Here are a few other translations. You tell me what it says.



Hebrews 10:26 (New King James Version)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


Hebrews 10:26 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,


Hebrews 10:26 (The Message)
26-31If we give up and turn our backs on all we've learned, all we've been given, all the truth we now know, we repudiate Christ's sacrifice and are left on our own to face the Judgment—and a mighty fierce judgment it will be! If the penalty for breaking the law of Moses is physical death, what do you think will happen if you turn on God's Son, spit on the sacrifice that made you whole, and insult this most gracious Spirit? This is no light matter. God has warned us that he'll hold us to account and us pay. He was quite explicit: "Vengeance is mine, and I won't overlook a thing" and "God will judge his people." Nobody's getting by with anything, believe me.


Hebrews 10:26 (Amplified Bible)
26For if we go on deliberately and willingly sinning after once acquiring the knowledge of the Truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left to atone for [our] sins [no further offering to which to look forward].


Hebrews 10:26 (New Living Translation)
26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.


Hebrews 10:26 (Young's Literal Translation)
26For we -- willfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth -- no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice,


Hebrews 10:26 (Contemporary English Version)
26No sacrifices can be made for people who decide to sin after they find out about the truth.

[MrsMcD]

Originally Posted by All4one

A simple question - If a person leaves the church and their spouse, remarries and comes back to church - if the former spouse wants them back are they obligated to return to the original spouse?

You know, this really isn't a simple question.

[Sister Alvear]

It is VERY complicated....very....

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Balanced

All stmatthew did was quote Hebrews 10:26.

Here are a few other translations. You tell me what it says.



Hebrews 10:26 (New King James Version)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,


Hebrews 10:26 (New International Version)
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,


Hebrews 10:26 (The Message)
26-31If we give up and turn our backs on all we've learned, all we've been given, all the truth we now know, we repudiate Christ's sacrifice and are left on our own to face the Judgment—and a mighty fierce judgment it will be! If the penalty for breaking the law of Moses is physical death, what do you think will happen if you turn on God's Son, spit on the sacrifice that made you whole, and insult this most gracious Spirit? This is no light matter. God has warned us that he'll hold us to account and us pay. He was quite explicit: "Vengeance is mine, and I won't overlook a thing" and "God will judge his people." Nobody's getting by with anything, believe me.


Hebrews 10:26 (Amplified Bible)
26For if we go on deliberately and willingly sinning after once acquiring the knowledge of the Truth, there is no longer any sacrifice left to atone for [our] sins [no further offering to which to look forward].


Hebrews 10:26 (New Living Translation)
26 Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins.


Hebrews 10:26 (Young's Literal Translation)
26For we -- willfully sinning after the receiving the full knowledge of the truth -- no more for sins doth there remain a sacrifice,


Hebrews 10:26 (Contemporary English Version)
26No sacrifices can be made for people who decide to sin after they find out about the truth.

I disagree with the assertion that "All stmatthew did was quote Hebrews 10:26.".

He introduced a specific scriptural witness within a discussion that involves the marriage vow pertaining to individuals who have received a knowledge of the truth. The context of where Matt introduced this scriptural cite clearly goes beyond just quoting Heb 10:26.

His posting resulted in a direct question coming back from the thread starter.

I hope we are all willing to be accountable to each other by stating our own understanding concerning any scripture we bring into any discussion.

St. Matthew, are you going to answer the question that was prompted by your choice to bring the witness of Heb 10:26 into this thread?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by All4one

A simple question - If a person leaves the church and their spouse, remarries and comes back to church - if the former spouse wants them back are they obligated to return to the original spouse?

I just hate legalism

[DividedThigh]

with you on that one rhoni, dt

[RandyWayne]

Consider this scenerio:

A man gets married at 18 and divorces just a couple years later. After 20 years of marriage his second wife dies from an illness. He gets in contact with his first wife and over the next couple of years romance blooms and they remarry. Now a few MORE years pass and she dies in a car accident. This man soon meets a 3rd woman (for the first time IN CHURCH) and they are soon wed (for his 4th time). A decade later SHE dies. He never remarried.

Now the BIG question is: With which wife does he buy a burial plot with?

[King's Child]

Originally Posted by All4one

no no no, what Im saying is- if a person wants to leave their spouse, can they leave the church, divorce, remarry and come back and be recieved with open arms and get to then choose which spouse they would like to keep?

1Corinthians 7:10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord Let not the wife depart from her husband

1Corinthians 7:11 But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband and let not the husband put away his wife.

[King's Child]

Originally Posted by All4one

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
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What are you trying to say? If someone sins on purpose they cant be saved?

Stmatthew was just giving you a scripture in the bible. He's not saying anything but simply letting the bible speak for its self.